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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 2350915" data-attributes="member: 22622">I don't think that having your players role play out strategy before combat has anything to do with the players and characters and its a far reach  to compare the two. With your logic though, why even go through the combat?  Why role play for that matter?  If You are correct they are a fighter and a rogue and they obviously have experience fighting.  They know how to flank people and avoid aoo and how to fight so that no one dies.    Their base attack is +11, just skip the combat too while we're skiipping things.  And why role play?  I mean they obviously have a high intelligence and charisma of course all the NPCs tell them what they want to know.  Let's just fastfoward through most of the game session right to the XP. Dms run the type of game they like.  Im fine with that.  But dont justify the fact that you allow your player's to metagame by trying to say that player's shouldn't treat their character's ingame with intelligence and as more than just a character sheet.  In my game my players are in character unless otherwise said so.  THat's why I presumed they call it ROLE playing.  Strategizing beforehand is just being smart about how your players play their role.   If you assume they "know better about that" you might as well assume they know better about most role playing things in game.</blockquote>