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<blockquote data-quote="rknop" data-source="post: 7722719" data-attributes="member: 20176"><p>Here's the thing about the Gap -- it's 300 years ago. The Pact Worlds have moved on. If you want to ignore it, you can.</p><p></p><p>I like there being a Big Cool Unexplained Mystery in the setting. What happened to Aroden? Nobody knows. And, very little of the followup Pathfinder material dealt with that, but a <em>lot</em> of it dealt with the fallout. (Cheliax and devils, Molthune/Nirmathas, Worldwound, Eye of Abendigo, etc.) However, a lot of it also didn't really depend on the death of Aroden for what mattered. I anticipate that the Starfinder setting will be the same way. They will never explain the Gap. Some things will arise from the Gap. Some groups will be trying to figure out what happened during the Gap. But lots of things could run just the same as if the Gap weren't there.</p><p></p><p>There are many pitfalls that have hit big game worlds in the past. One of them is the Oppressive Metaplot, where things move on and major changes happen in the world that your characters have no control over, and that contradict what has happened in people's games. Paizo has done a careful job of not falling into that pit. While several of the Adventure Paths have world-changing outcomes, they don't make any of them canon. (It'll be interesting to see if they finally break that rule with <em>War for the Crown</em>.)</p><p></p><p>If they wanted Starfinder to be in the same setting as Pathfinder, but they didn't want to commit to saying what major world changes happened after 4708, they had to do <em>something</em> to make that history either go away, or become unimportant.</p><p></p><p>(The PFS Metaplot <em>has</em> advanced. But, there, you don't have individual GMs and players making their own stories; it's a campaign, not a setting. Still, it's sometimes awkward playing early-season scenarios where, say, the Shadow Lodge is an emerging threat. The first time I played a Shadow Lodge scenario, my character was a member of the Shadow Lodge faction.... the GM explained that there were two different Shadow Lodges to make sense of it.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rknop, post: 7722719, member: 20176"] Here's the thing about the Gap -- it's 300 years ago. The Pact Worlds have moved on. If you want to ignore it, you can. I like there being a Big Cool Unexplained Mystery in the setting. What happened to Aroden? Nobody knows. And, very little of the followup Pathfinder material dealt with that, but a [i]lot[/i] of it dealt with the fallout. (Cheliax and devils, Molthune/Nirmathas, Worldwound, Eye of Abendigo, etc.) However, a lot of it also didn't really depend on the death of Aroden for what mattered. I anticipate that the Starfinder setting will be the same way. They will never explain the Gap. Some things will arise from the Gap. Some groups will be trying to figure out what happened during the Gap. But lots of things could run just the same as if the Gap weren't there. There are many pitfalls that have hit big game worlds in the past. One of them is the Oppressive Metaplot, where things move on and major changes happen in the world that your characters have no control over, and that contradict what has happened in people's games. Paizo has done a careful job of not falling into that pit. While several of the Adventure Paths have world-changing outcomes, they don't make any of them canon. (It'll be interesting to see if they finally break that rule with [i]War for the Crown[/i].) If they wanted Starfinder to be in the same setting as Pathfinder, but they didn't want to commit to saying what major world changes happened after 4708, they had to do [i]something[/i] to make that history either go away, or become unimportant. (The PFS Metaplot [i]has[/i] advanced. But, there, you don't have individual GMs and players making their own stories; it's a campaign, not a setting. Still, it's sometimes awkward playing early-season scenarios where, say, the Shadow Lodge is an emerging threat. The first time I played a Shadow Lodge scenario, my character was a member of the Shadow Lodge faction.... the GM explained that there were two different Shadow Lodges to make sense of it.) [/QUOTE]
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