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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9748032" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>GURPS needs a serious overhaul in just about every aspect. I haven't touched it since 3e or so and I understand there have been some attempts to fix it, but the fundamental design of the game is just wrong on almost every level. It really took trying to run GURPS for me to really appreciate the genius of D&D. </p><p></p><p>I would seriously nominate GURPS for the worst designed skill system in the history of tabletop RPGs. GURPS is what you get when you apply nothing but intuition to how a game should work with no real extrapolation into how this is really going to play. It's bizarre to me that the same designer made something as elegant as Ogre.</p><p></p><p>The combat system also breaks around the margins and its adherence to intuitive process realism rather than cinematic realism or casual realism means that the combat is about as fun as actual combat and doesn't really support genre that well. But at least it is functional as a game in a way the skill system just really isn't.</p><p></p><p>The Universal aspect of GURPS that I think was it's biggest appeal is a bit of an illusion. It's universal in the same sense D20 is, in that it can act as the core mechanic if you carefully build a genre around it, but the genres aren't compatible with each other in any sense. Points in one genre don't translate to points in the other. Characters built with a certain number of points in one genre aren't balanced with characters built with a similar number of points in another. There is probably more compatibility between two D20 games that there is within GURPS itself.</p><p></p><p>What GURPS was really good at was lonely fun. It's of the same genre as Star Fleet Battles or Car Wars. GURPS sold a lot more books than it sold games IME.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9748032, member: 4937"] GURPS needs a serious overhaul in just about every aspect. I haven't touched it since 3e or so and I understand there have been some attempts to fix it, but the fundamental design of the game is just wrong on almost every level. It really took trying to run GURPS for me to really appreciate the genius of D&D. I would seriously nominate GURPS for the worst designed skill system in the history of tabletop RPGs. GURPS is what you get when you apply nothing but intuition to how a game should work with no real extrapolation into how this is really going to play. It's bizarre to me that the same designer made something as elegant as Ogre. The combat system also breaks around the margins and its adherence to intuitive process realism rather than cinematic realism or casual realism means that the combat is about as fun as actual combat and doesn't really support genre that well. But at least it is functional as a game in a way the skill system just really isn't. The Universal aspect of GURPS that I think was it's biggest appeal is a bit of an illusion. It's universal in the same sense D20 is, in that it can act as the core mechanic if you carefully build a genre around it, but the genres aren't compatible with each other in any sense. Points in one genre don't translate to points in the other. Characters built with a certain number of points in one genre aren't balanced with characters built with a similar number of points in another. There is probably more compatibility between two D20 games that there is within GURPS itself. What GURPS was really good at was lonely fun. It's of the same genre as Star Fleet Battles or Car Wars. GURPS sold a lot more books than it sold games IME. [/QUOTE]
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