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<blockquote data-quote="Marius Delphus" data-source="post: 5237258" data-attributes="member: 447"><p>I don't think there's any reason to hate mages/wizards/arcane casters in all this, when it's the player trying to put one over on the DM. Apparently house rules are just fine when this player comes up with them...?</p><p></p><p>This sounds like one of those "trust" issues to me... the player doesn't trust the DM to provide a fun time, so out comes the obscure build, the feats no one can find*, and the tug-of-war for control of the game. Symptoms of a larger problem, IYAM.</p><p></p><p>* I don't know if lordphynix was paraphrasing, but I know that if I saw this:... I'd laugh at the poor fellow and tell him to find a feat that's actually in a published source, and that then I'd think about maybe possibly allowing it. It's not just the ability it confers that's broken....</p><p></p><p>In the end, it sounds to me like a variation on a story I've heard before. My advice is the same: start talking. It's tempting to try and "fix" this by being sneaky/clever/whatever, but it won't work. Getting the deeper issues here out in the open is the only way to get them solved.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: As to the original question, according to WOTC the 3.5 Tamer of Beasts *is* the Beastmaster (<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20050110x" target="_blank">Rules Reference: Feats, Prestige Classes, and Spells</a>; at about the midpoint of the page).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marius Delphus, post: 5237258, member: 447"] I don't think there's any reason to hate mages/wizards/arcane casters in all this, when it's the player trying to put one over on the DM. Apparently house rules are just fine when this player comes up with them...? This sounds like one of those "trust" issues to me... the player doesn't trust the DM to provide a fun time, so out comes the obscure build, the feats no one can find*, and the tug-of-war for control of the game. Symptoms of a larger problem, IYAM. * I don't know if lordphynix was paraphrasing, but I know that if I saw this:... I'd laugh at the poor fellow and tell him to find a feat that's actually in a published source, and that then I'd think about maybe possibly allowing it. It's not just the ability it confers that's broken.... In the end, it sounds to me like a variation on a story I've heard before. My advice is the same: start talking. It's tempting to try and "fix" this by being sneaky/clever/whatever, but it won't work. Getting the deeper issues here out in the open is the only way to get them solved. EDIT: As to the original question, according to WOTC the 3.5 Tamer of Beasts *is* the Beastmaster ([URL="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20050110x"]Rules Reference: Feats, Prestige Classes, and Spells[/URL]; at about the midpoint of the page). [/QUOTE]
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