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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 1691875" data-attributes="member: 11697">Besides what has already been mentioned..Non Tanar'ri demons: Abyssal Bats / Varrangoins (sp?): they used to control a much larger portion of the Abyss, though their civilization has largely crumbled to dust. How large it was is an open question.Regarding the Yugoloths: The 'loths are native to the Gray Waste, their original home plane, though they have since expanded into Gehenna as well, and have designs on Carceri. Yugoloths have no direct link to mortal petitioners, unlike Tanar'ri and Baatezu which are formed almost exclusively from mortal petitioners. The 'loths are either formed directly from the essence of their home plane itself, or born from two Yugoloths (lesser Yugoloths mate to breed mezzoloths, Nycaloths truebreed nycaloths, Arcanaloths truebreed Arcanaloths, and Ultroloths can give birth to Arcanaloths by parthanogenesis)[From Faces of Evil: The Fiends' the definative fiendish ecology book]The Yugoloths also claim, and have substantial evidence to back it up, that they created the Baatezu and Tanar'ri at the urging of their own makers, the Baernaloths.On Ancient Baatorians: Larvae in Baator will, over a long period of time, mutate into Nupperibos. Given even more time the Nupperibo will mature into an advanced form that is both intelligent and has energy draining tentacles. Over an even longer period of time these will mutate into a sluglike entity that is immune to anything short of a wish.There was an advanced Nupperibo help as a curiousity by the former Kyton lord of Jangling Hiter. It was given to him by, you guessed it, a Yugoloth. The Yugoloths, for unknown reasons, have been known to buy Nupperibos from the Baatezu who otherwise kill and force Nupperibos into lemure status so they can be forced into the Baatezu heirarchy. (It appeared in 'Tales of the Infinite Staircase')There was also a mature Baatorian lurking in the caves of the 5th layer of Baator IIRC. (This critter was obliquely mentioned in the 3e MotP. The original appeared in 'Hellbound: The Blood War')In the glaciers of Stygia, the forms frozen in the ice seen in combat with Archons and Aasimon are in fact Ancient Baatorians in various ranges of maturity. (3e MotP, 'Planes of Law' box set)It's always been my thought that the Baernaloths urged the Yugoloths to create the Tanar'ri and Baatezu in order to remove the original races of both planes from power and install races of their own creation that they could one day control. It's rumored that when created, the original Tanar'ri and Baatezu had things written into their essence that would allow them to be controlled like puppets when the Yugoloths wished to see the Blood War end.</blockquote>

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