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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2889547" data-attributes="member: 1656">None of those are true.Charm Person has a range of 'Close' - let's say 35 feet for our hypothetical caster.  If he's touching someone, are they within 35 feet?You can hold the charge on a touch spell.  The section on 'Touch spells in combat' defines a touch spell as a spell with a range of 'Touch'.  Charm Person has a range of 'Close', not 'Touch'.Spectral Hand can deliver "any touch range spell of 4th level or lower".  Charm Person has a range of 'Close', not 'Touch'.Your familiar can deliver touch spells.  The section on 'Touch spells in combat' defines a touch spell as a spell with a range of 'Touch'.  Charm Person has a range of 'Close', not 'Touch'.We're not delivering Charm Person to a creature we're touching because the spell has a range of Touch; we're delivering Charm Person to a creature we're touching because the creature is within 35 feet, and because to target him, we must be able to see or touch him.Well, that brings up an interesting question.Let's say the Wicked Witch of the West casts Charm Person on Dorothy, then gets called away on an urgent crystal ball call.The Wicked Witch of the East saw this going on.  She casts Disguise Self to look like the Wicked Witch of the West, and tells Dorothy to prop a bucket of water over the door to the bedroom.The real Wicked Witch of the West has just finished dressing up as a flying monkey in order to play a trick on the Wizard of Oz, and comes back in.  She sees Dorothy with the bucket, and tells her to put it down.Under normal circumstances, Dorothy hates the WWotW, and would not obey any commands she gave.  But under the Charm Person spell, Dorothy considers the WWotW to be her best friend.Does the enchantment cause her to view the caster as her friend, or only someone she thinks is the caster?Will she obey the flying monkey (who cast the Charm Person spell on her) who she doesn't recognise?  Or will she obey the person she perceives to be the WWotW (who is, in fact, the WWotE, who didn't cast the Charm Person spell on her)?The spell description constantly references you, which in D&D-speak means 'the caster'.  The subject regards you as a trusted friend, you can give her orders, she perceives your actions favourably.  Does this effect lapse just because you change shape?  Does it apply to someone else (who is not 'you') just because they change shape?-Hyp.</blockquote>

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