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<blockquote data-quote="The Gryphon" data-source="post: 1931538" data-attributes="member: 17286">The twisting I'm referring to is that when it says &quot;no two targets&quot;, you're redefining targets to mean the two specific targets you pick from all possible targets and no others. That to me infers a twisting of the basic text as written to something approximating &quot;no two specific targets&quot;. I hope this clears up what I mean, as IMO you're adding the word &quot;specific&quot; or something similar to the text as written when formulating the interpretation you've shown.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What requirement is there for magic to be semi-sentient or have higher functions? The caster provides all of the information needed, and the power harnessed for the spell imposes the limitations.&nbsp;By how could the formulae become more complex I'll be a little more specific in my examples using the spells you've specified above.&nbsp;Fireball is an explosion of energy directed by the caster, which has it's radius limited by the energy supplied.&nbsp;The spells like magic missile which require &quot;no two targets/of which being x ft. apart&quot;. The energy harnessed by the spell can only cover a certain amount of area before dispersing, and the caster chooses the targets within that area.&nbsp;None of these effects as I've described them requires the &quot;spell&quot; to remember anything or have a higher funtion, it is just a tool with the power collected and directed by the caster. Even a spell like delayed blast fireball doesn't need a higher function. The caster just varies the amount of containment magic placed around the fireball effect, thus setting a &quot;timer&quot; by varying the amount of time before the effect breaches the containing magic.&nbsp;Note all of the spells listed above have an area of effect, it's just defined differently. As I've said before spells like magic missle &quot;no two of which&quot; and the &quot;no two targets&quot; spells in effect have a radius, just like a fireball, but are not defined as a burst or spread for several reasons.&nbsp;Firstly, the &quot;no two targets/of which&quot; type of spell requires line of sight to hit the target(s), which is not a limitation of either burst or spread spells. Example: You can fireball an invisible creature or a creature around a corner (by placing the area correctly), but not magic missile one.&nbsp;Secondly, you have no control over who is effected by burst or spread spells apart from where you place the centre of the effect. Example: If you throw a fireball at a close packed group that contains some of your friends you can't avoid them, but a magic missile can target whatever creatures you want in the group without harming your friends.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Gryphon, post: 1931538, member: 17286"] The twisting I'm referring to is that when it says "no two targets", you're redefining targets to mean the two specific targets you pick [b]from all possible targets[/b] and no others. That to me infers a twisting of the basic text as written to something approximating "no two specific targets". I hope this clears up what I mean, as IMO you're adding the word "specific" or something similar to the text as written when formulating the interpretation you've shown. What requirement is there for magic to be semi-sentient or have higher functions? The caster provides all of the information needed, and the power harnessed for the spell imposes the limitations. By how could the formulae become more complex I'll be a little more specific in my examples using the spells you've specified above. Fireball is an explosion of energy directed by the caster, which has it's radius limited by the energy supplied. The spells like magic missile which require "no two targets/of which being x ft. apart". The energy harnessed by the spell can only cover a certain amount of area before dispersing, and the caster chooses the targets within that area. None of these effects as I've described them requires the "spell" to remember anything or have a higher funtion, it is just a tool with the power collected and directed by the caster. Even a spell like delayed blast fireball doesn't need a higher function. The caster just varies the amount of containment magic placed around the fireball effect, thus setting a "timer" by varying the amount of time before the effect breaches the containing magic. Note all of the spells listed above have an area of effect, it's just defined differently. As I've said before spells like magic missle "no two of which" and the "no two targets" spells in effect have a radius, just like a fireball, but are not defined as a burst or spread for several reasons. Firstly, the "no two targets/of which" type of spell requires line of sight to hit the target(s), which is not a limitation of either burst or spread spells. Example: You can fireball an invisible creature or a creature around a corner (by placing the area correctly), but not magic missile one. Secondly, you have no control over who is effected by burst or spread spells apart from where you place the centre of the effect. Example: If you throw a fireball at a close packed group that contains some of your friends you can't avoid them, but a magic missile can target whatever creatures you want in the group without harming your friends. [/QUOTE]

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