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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8460124" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>The Finesse Fighter was given to the 4e Rogue and taken back by the 5e Fighter.</p><p></p><p>The Brawny and Rattling Rogues were dangerously close to being the Finesse Fighter.</p><p></p><p>Basically</p><p></p><p>3e=> 4e</p><p>The 3e Fighter got split. The 3e Ranger had it's head cut off and the body tossed. The Rogue was mostly only enhanced,</p><p></p><p>Sword and Shield, Great Weapon, Brawler, Polearm, and Exotic stayed with the Fighter.</p><p></p><p>Two Weapon, Archery, and Throwing went to Ranger. </p><p>Beastmastery and Horizon stayed with Ranger.</p><p>Magic Archer and Magic Melee died.</p><p></p><p>Sneak stayed with Rogue</p><p>Aerialist come came from Pre3e and went to Rogue</p><p>Finesse go downgraded and went to Rogue</p><p>Brawny, Dodger, and Cuttthroat were invented and added to Rogue.</p><p></p><p>Inspiring came back from Pre3e and went to the new Warlord.</p><p>Tactical, Bravura, and Resourceful were invented and went to Warlord.</p><p></p><p>4e=>5e</p><p></p><p>Sword and Shield, Great Weapon, Brawler, Polearm, and Exotic stayed with the Fighter.</p><p>Finesse, Two Weapon, Archery, and Throwing went back to Fighter</p><p>Eldritch, Echo, Arcane Archer, Rune, Psi Fighting went to Fighter</p><p></p><p>Beastmastery and Horizon stayed with Ranger</p><p>Magic Archer and Magic Melee came back for Ranger</p><p>Fey, Gloom, Swarm, and Drake went to Ranger</p><p></p><p>Sneak, Aerialist, Brawny, Cutthroat, and Dodger stayed with Rogue.</p><p>Phantom, Scout, Mastermind, and Soul went to Rogue</p><p></p><p>Warlord died.</p><p></p><p>Basically. When 4e decided to shunt utility magic into its own subsystem, it had to kill the Traditional Ranger. In order to still have a ranger class, 4e chopped the 3e Fighter in three pieces and brought back parts of the OG fighter to make the Warlord.</p><p></p><p>When utility magic returned in 5e, the Ranger got its utility magic back. The 4e Ranger and the Finesse Rogue were reabsorbed back into the Fighter to make the 5e Fighter.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, the design teamand many fans were wizard biased so the Ranger was woefully weak on the skill and magic front until TCOE.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8460124, member: 63508"] The Finesse Fighter was given to the 4e Rogue and taken back by the 5e Fighter. The Brawny and Rattling Rogues were dangerously close to being the Finesse Fighter. Basically 3e=> 4e The 3e Fighter got split. The 3e Ranger had it's head cut off and the body tossed. The Rogue was mostly only enhanced, Sword and Shield, Great Weapon, Brawler, Polearm, and Exotic stayed with the Fighter. Two Weapon, Archery, and Throwing went to Ranger. Beastmastery and Horizon stayed with Ranger. Magic Archer and Magic Melee died. Sneak stayed with Rogue Aerialist come came from Pre3e and went to Rogue Finesse go downgraded and went to Rogue Brawny, Dodger, and Cuttthroat were invented and added to Rogue. Inspiring came back from Pre3e and went to the new Warlord. Tactical, Bravura, and Resourceful were invented and went to Warlord. 4e=>5e Sword and Shield, Great Weapon, Brawler, Polearm, and Exotic stayed with the Fighter. Finesse, Two Weapon, Archery, and Throwing went back to Fighter Eldritch, Echo, Arcane Archer, Rune, Psi Fighting went to Fighter Beastmastery and Horizon stayed with Ranger Magic Archer and Magic Melee came back for Ranger Fey, Gloom, Swarm, and Drake went to Ranger Sneak, Aerialist, Brawny, Cutthroat, and Dodger stayed with Rogue. Phantom, Scout, Mastermind, and Soul went to Rogue Warlord died. Basically. When 4e decided to shunt utility magic into its own subsystem, it had to kill the Traditional Ranger. In order to still have a ranger class, 4e chopped the 3e Fighter in three pieces and brought back parts of the OG fighter to make the Warlord. When utility magic returned in 5e, the Ranger got its utility magic back. The 4e Ranger and the Finesse Rogue were reabsorbed back into the Fighter to make the 5e Fighter. Unfortunately, the design teamand many fans were wizard biased so the Ranger was woefully weak on the skill and magic front until TCOE. [/QUOTE]
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