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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8462045" data-attributes="member: 7030563">A fighter is generally going to be better with weapons and damage, has better saves and has the both heal himself as a bonus action and take a second action in combat, he also gets an extra ASI, heavy armor and more attacks.&nbsp; Finally fighter gets unique and more martial-oriented fighting styles.&nbsp; Some/most of the fighter subclasses build on these themes.In a straight up fight with weapons, whether ranged or melee, a fighter will usually defeat a Ranger.&nbsp; Rannger is a more powerful class overall considering all 3 pillars but it is not a more powerful combat class.I also would not say Rangers &quot;get&quot; Hunter's Mark.&nbsp; It is a spell and not a particularly good one.&nbsp; It is difficult to use effectively because it muddles up your bonus action, especially at higher levels when you have extra attack and would get the biggest damage boost.&nbsp; While everyone took it 4 years ago, I see many Rangers that never take it at all now and those that do generally trade it out once 2nd level spells become available.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8462045, member: 7030563"] A fighter is generally going to be better with weapons and damage, has better saves and has the both heal himself as a bonus action and take a second action in combat, he also gets an extra ASI, heavy armor and more attacks. Finally fighter gets unique and more martial-oriented fighting styles. Some/most of the fighter subclasses build on these themes. In a straight up fight with weapons, whether ranged or melee, a fighter will usually defeat a Ranger. Rannger is a more powerful class overall considering all 3 pillars but it is not a more powerful combat class. I also would not say Rangers "get" Hunter's Mark. It is a spell and not a particularly good one. It is difficult to use effectively because it muddles up your bonus action, especially at higher levels when you have extra attack and would get the biggest damage boost. While everyone took it 4 years ago, I see many Rangers that never take it at all now and those that do generally trade it out once 2nd level spells become available. [/QUOTE]

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