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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kenjib" data-source="post: 1400854" data-attributes="member: 530">Page numbers are from the 3e books.  I don't have the 3.5 ones.  Also, it's not just the punk/goth stuff but the cartoon style oversized weapons and armor pieces as well as the anachronistically ergonomic look.  Also, many specific examples aren't that much, but it's the cumulative effect of these things being in almost every picture.PHB:  12 (human buckle, elf spiky), 13 (half-orc piercing), 14, 18, 19, 25 (axe), 28, 34, 44 (pierced ears), 47, 50, 52, 53 (goggles), 64 (axe again), 75, 80, 82, 84, okay at this point I've just referenced easily the majority of all pictures from the first five chapters, and even some of the ones I skipped I'm borderline on, so I'm not going to go on.  Now it's your turn to find me pictures from pages 1-84, not including the Swenkel chapter headers with *don't* have anything buckled, black leathered, dreadlocked, spiky, pierced, or tattoed.DMG:  9, 15, 19, 21, 23, 28, 32, 36, 39, I'm through only the first two chapters and again I feel like I'm just citing almost every picture I come across.MM:  This one isn't quite as persistant, but still has some really egregious examples like the manticore and displacer beast.  Mostly here is just that so many things are spiky and/or emaciated (again it's often appropriate, but still it's pervasive in cumulative effect) - 20, 21, 23 (both), 24, 27, 37, 38, 43, 50, 51, 53, 54, 59, 60, etc.Psionic Handbook:  Every picture.So all of these page numbers are just from the very beginnings of each book since I didn't see much point in continuing after that point.btw, I've got absolutely nothing against tattoos and piercings in real life.  My wife has both of them.</blockquote>

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