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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8131870" data-attributes="member: 87792">To clarify - it's new ways to spend the points they already had at a time they'd already spend them. The Way of Shadow monk gets new ways to spend Ki points through spellcasting, but the spellcasting from the Way of Shadow is on its own worth more than the entire Four Element schtick.This is because the Way of Elements abilities are almost all combat evocations. Monks, with flurries and stunning fists are not short of ways to spend Ki for combat power meaning that it competes with class abilities. By contrast the Way of Shadow gives you four spells, of which Darkvision and Pass Without Trace spring to mind. Those are both long term non-combat spells that may compete for ki points (or may not if you have resting time) but there's basically no time at which you're uncertain whether in this instant it's better to cast Pass Without Trace or punch someone in the head while a flurry vs Burning Hands is much more competition.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8131870, member: 87792"] To clarify - it's new ways to spend the points they already had at a time they'd already spend them. The Way of Shadow monk gets new ways to spend Ki points through spellcasting, but the spellcasting from the Way of Shadow is [I]on its own[/I] worth more than the entire Four Element schtick. This is because the Way of Elements abilities are almost all combat evocations. Monks, with flurries and stunning fists are not short of ways to spend Ki for combat power meaning that it competes with class abilities. By contrast the Way of Shadow gives you four spells, of which Darkvision and Pass Without Trace spring to mind. Those are both long term non-combat spells that may compete for ki points (or may not if you have resting time) but there's basically no time at which you're uncertain whether in this instant it's better to cast Pass Without Trace or punch someone in the head while a flurry vs Burning Hands is much more competition. [/QUOTE]

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