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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9499651" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Some random comments and opinions:</p><p></p><p>Warlocks: I would add any Warlock to the A list due to Lessons of the First Ones. IME so far this is commonly used to get the Musician and Alert and is a huge party boon (especially musician). I have not seen anyone take Musician at 1st level, but I have seen multiple Warlocks getting it through this Invocation.</p><p></p><p>Thief: I would make Thief C tier. While they can do the things you mention with Fast Hands, their bonus action is also cluttered and it is relatively rare that it actually works out like that IME.</p><p></p><p>Great Old One: Agree on Dissonant Whispers .... but then isn't every Bard S tier? Also Hex does not give disadvantage on saves, it gives disadvantage on ability checks.</p><p></p><p>War: Agree it is powerful, but sounds more like self sufficient as opposed to a great team/cohesive player. Kind of like Life Cleric IMO.</p><p></p><p>Fey Wanderer: This is generally B because of how it can control a battlefield with Beguiling Twist and create situations your casters and martials can exploit. In the right party - if you have Bards, Wizards or Sorcs throwing Hypnotic Pattern or Fear this becomes S tier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9499651, member: 7030563"] Some random comments and opinions: Warlocks: I would add any Warlock to the A list due to Lessons of the First Ones. IME so far this is commonly used to get the Musician and Alert and is a huge party boon (especially musician). I have not seen anyone take Musician at 1st level, but I have seen multiple Warlocks getting it through this Invocation. Thief: I would make Thief C tier. While they can do the things you mention with Fast Hands, their bonus action is also cluttered and it is relatively rare that it actually works out like that IME. Great Old One: Agree on Dissonant Whispers .... but then isn't every Bard S tier? Also Hex does not give disadvantage on saves, it gives disadvantage on ability checks. War: Agree it is powerful, but sounds more like self sufficient as opposed to a great team/cohesive player. Kind of like Life Cleric IMO. Fey Wanderer: This is generally B because of how it can control a battlefield with Beguiling Twist and create situations your casters and martials can exploit. In the right party - if you have Bards, Wizards or Sorcs throwing Hypnotic Pattern or Fear this becomes S tier. [/QUOTE]
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