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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9504455" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>No disabling the guy you are about to kill is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So it is situational!</p><p></p><p>In addition to the party members not just doing it themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Those are highly situational. Even the party make up for it is situational.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it is not. Read the 2024 rules! A Net is not a weapon and it does not require an attack roll.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are purposefully misleading people by quoting 2014 rules which are no longer valid. This is not the rules, if you think it is tell us where in the 2024 rulebook where you found these words. I have read the rulebook cover to cover and have not seen this at all.</p><p></p><p>Here is what the 2024 rules say about a Net (under adventuring gear, not under martial weapons):</p><p></p><p><em>"When you take the Attack action, you can replace one of your attacks with throwing a Net. Target a creature you can see within 15 feet of yourself. The target must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw (DC 8 plus your Dexterity modifier and Proficiency Bonus) or have the Restrained condition until it escapes. The target succeeds automatically if it is Huge or larger."</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not a weapon, so why would you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you started off saying people did not do this with Thief because they did not know about it.</p><p></p><p>If you are seeing grapples often in 2024 and not seeing Nets used often, I would opine it is because players at your table don't understand how Nets work in the new rules, and from your posts above it is clear you do not know how they work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9504455, member: 7030563"] No disabling the guy you are about to kill is. So it is situational! In addition to the party members not just doing it themselves. Those are highly situational. Even the party make up for it is situational. No it is not. Read the 2024 rules! A Net is not a weapon and it does not require an attack roll. You are purposefully misleading people by quoting 2014 rules which are no longer valid. This is not the rules, if you think it is tell us where in the 2024 rulebook where you found these words. I have read the rulebook cover to cover and have not seen this at all. Here is what the 2024 rules say about a Net (under adventuring gear, not under martial weapons): [I]"When you take the Attack action, you can replace one of your attacks with throwing a Net. Target a creature you can see within 15 feet of yourself. The target must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw (DC 8 plus your Dexterity modifier and Proficiency Bonus) or have the Restrained condition until it escapes. The target succeeds automatically if it is Huge or larger."[/I] It is not a weapon, so why would you? So you started off saying people did not do this with Thief because they did not know about it. If you are seeing grapples often in 2024 and not seeing Nets used often, I would opine it is because players at your table don't understand how Nets work in the new rules, and from your posts above it is clear you do not know how they work. [/QUOTE]
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