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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 5444826" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>Don't take that FAQ entry out of context. It does not pertain to lycanthropy nor any other time the term Humanoid is used, it only pertains to Control body's usability on "undead and outsiders with a humanoid physiology". <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#humanoidType" target="_blank">Humanoid</a> is a defined <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/typesSubtypes.htm" target="_blank">creature type</a> in the rule set, separate from even <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#monstrousHumanoidType" target="_blank">Monstrous Humanoid</a>.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Control body FAQ entry]<strong>The control body power (XPH 86) says that you can</strong></p><p><strong>control any humanoid, including undead and outsiders with</strong></p><p><strong>a humanoid physiology. How far does a “humanoid</strong></p><p><strong>physiology” extend? What about a balor (a humanoidshaped</strong></p><p><strong>creature with wings), a glabrezu (which has extra</strong></p><p><strong>arms), or a salamander (which has a tail instead of legs)? Is</strong></p><p><strong>there something official about what counts as “humanoid</strong></p><p><strong>physiology” or is it a DM ruling?</strong></p><p></p><p>There’s no official definition of humanoid physiology. This</p><p>is one of those places where common sense and DM judgment</p><p>must rule the day. The Sage advises that “humanoid</p><p>physiology” should reasonably include any creature whose</p><p>body is shaped like a humanoid (upright, probably bipedal</p><p>creature) and includes all the basic parts of a humanoid (legs,</p><p>arms, a torso, a head). Extra parts—such as wings, a tail, a pair</p><p>of extra arms, or even an extra head—shouldn’t push the</p><p>creature out of this category. The Sage would even allow some</p><p>leeway in the area of legs, since both the centaur (with its</p><p>horselike body and four legs) and the halfblood yuan-ti (which</p><p>might have a snake’s tail instead of legs) are considered</p><p>“monstrous” humanoids.</p><p>When in doubt, look at the creature’s descriptive text—if</p><p>it’s described as having a humanoid form, it’s probably</p><p>reasonable to consider it as having humanoid physiology.</p><p>Ultimately, there’s nothing wrong with the DM being overly</p><p>lenient in his rulings on this topic.</p><p>Among the outsiders in the MM, the Sage would consider</p><p>the following to be of humanoid physiology: angel (astral deva,</p><p>planetar, solar), most archons (hound archon, trumpet archon),</p><p>azer, barghest (in goblin form only), most demons (babau,</p><p>balor, dretch, glabrezu, hezrou, marilith, nalfeshnee, quasit,</p><p>succubus, vrock), most devils (barbed devil, bearded devil,</p><p>bone devil, chain devil, erinyes, horned devil, ice devil, imp, pit</p><p>fiend), eladrins (bralani, ghaele), genies (djinn, efreet, jann),</p><p>lillend, mephit, night hag, planetouched (aasimar, tiefling),</p><p>rakshasa, salamander, slaad, titan, triton, and xill.</p><p>Virtually all the undead in the MM have “humanoid</p><p>physiology.” only the nightcrawler, nightwing, and any</p><p>skeleton or zombie created from a creature without a humanoid</p><p>physiology would seem to be exceptions[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 5444826, member: 1164"] Don't take that FAQ entry out of context. It does not pertain to lycanthropy nor any other time the term Humanoid is used, it only pertains to Control body's usability on "undead and outsiders with a humanoid physiology". [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#humanoidType"]Humanoid[/URL] is a defined [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/typesSubtypes.htm"]creature type[/URL] in the rule set, separate from even [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#monstrousHumanoidType"]Monstrous Humanoid[/URL]. [sblock=Control body FAQ entry][B]The control body power (XPH 86) says that you can control any humanoid, including undead and outsiders with a humanoid physiology. How far does a “humanoid physiology” extend? What about a balor (a humanoidshaped creature with wings), a glabrezu (which has extra arms), or a salamander (which has a tail instead of legs)? Is there something official about what counts as “humanoid physiology” or is it a DM ruling?[/B] There’s no official definition of humanoid physiology. This is one of those places where common sense and DM judgment must rule the day. The Sage advises that “humanoid physiology” should reasonably include any creature whose body is shaped like a humanoid (upright, probably bipedal creature) and includes all the basic parts of a humanoid (legs, arms, a torso, a head). Extra parts—such as wings, a tail, a pair of extra arms, or even an extra head—shouldn’t push the creature out of this category. The Sage would even allow some leeway in the area of legs, since both the centaur (with its horselike body and four legs) and the halfblood yuan-ti (which might have a snake’s tail instead of legs) are considered “monstrous” humanoids. When in doubt, look at the creature’s descriptive text—if it’s described as having a humanoid form, it’s probably reasonable to consider it as having humanoid physiology. Ultimately, there’s nothing wrong with the DM being overly lenient in his rulings on this topic. Among the outsiders in the MM, the Sage would consider the following to be of humanoid physiology: angel (astral deva, planetar, solar), most archons (hound archon, trumpet archon), azer, barghest (in goblin form only), most demons (babau, balor, dretch, glabrezu, hezrou, marilith, nalfeshnee, quasit, succubus, vrock), most devils (barbed devil, bearded devil, bone devil, chain devil, erinyes, horned devil, ice devil, imp, pit fiend), eladrins (bralani, ghaele), genies (djinn, efreet, jann), lillend, mephit, night hag, planetouched (aasimar, tiefling), rakshasa, salamander, slaad, titan, triton, and xill. Virtually all the undead in the MM have “humanoid physiology.” only the nightcrawler, nightwing, and any skeleton or zombie created from a creature without a humanoid physiology would seem to be exceptions[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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