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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 1847463" data-attributes="member: 7808">Thanks for the points, BSF.&nbsp; I appreciate the analysis and explanations.&nbsp; (BTW, it's Deset, though, not Desert.&nbsp; Don't worry, it's a common mistake).&nbsp; You make a lot of good points for both sides.&nbsp; And the price comparisons are quite interesting, but it is hard to know exactly how acurate they are without knowing better statistics of ENWorld.I guess the thing that bothers me the most at this point is this: from the side of things that the user (me) is seeing things from, there's no evidence of the web team actually looking into any of these options.&nbsp; We are continually told how nice Cyberstreet is to us, but we've never been told that anybody has actually looked into these other options that are being discussed here.&nbsp; Nobody has come in to say that they checked with companies like Cedant and Aplus and found that they can't provide ENWorld what it needs for a competitive price.&nbsp; Instead, we're told how an admin works at Cyberstreet, and how friendly they've been.&nbsp; And quite frankly, from a user standpoint, it doesn't really seem that Cyberstreet is meeting our needs (I often have trouble connecting, experience slowness/timeouts during peak usage times, and can't help but notice the number of times this place has gone down in the past year or so).If somebody were to come in with a cost analysis of both sides and show that getting another dedicated host wouldn't work, I wouldn't question it.&nbsp; I wouldn't even ask to see the report; knowing that someone is doing it would be good enough for me, and I trust them.&nbsp; But the fact that we can sit here and have a long discussion about it like this, and it seems like it's the first time such a proposal has come up is just, well, scary.I would like to apologize in advance if I've hurt the feeling of any of the web team.&nbsp; I'm not trying to attack anyone or claim they're not competent in any way.&nbsp; I'm just calling things as I see them.&nbsp; It's even possible that somehas has done the kind of analysis I speak of above, and just didn't think it was necessary present the info to all of ENWorld's users.&nbsp; And PC, I realize that this discussion isn't the true purpose of this thread, but I don't know where else to take it at the moment.&nbsp; If you would rather start this up elsewhere, I have no problems with it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 1847463, member: 7808"] Thanks for the points, BSF. I appreciate the analysis and explanations. (BTW, it's Deset, though, not Desert. Don't worry, it's a common mistake). You make a lot of good points for both sides. And the price comparisons are quite interesting, but it is hard to know exactly how acurate they are without knowing better statistics of ENWorld. I guess the thing that bothers me the most at this point is this: from the side of things that the user (me) is seeing things from, there's no evidence of the web team actually looking into any of these options. We are continually told how nice Cyberstreet is to us, but we've never been told that anybody has actually looked into these other options that are being discussed here. Nobody has come in to say that they checked with companies like Cedant and Aplus and found that they can't provide ENWorld what it needs for a competitive price. Instead, we're told how an admin works at Cyberstreet, and how friendly they've been. And quite frankly, from a user standpoint, it doesn't really seem that Cyberstreet is meeting our needs (I often have trouble connecting, experience slowness/timeouts during peak usage times, and can't help but notice the number of times this place has gone down in the past year or so). If somebody were to come in with a cost analysis of both sides and show that getting another dedicated host wouldn't work, I wouldn't question it. I wouldn't even ask to see the report; knowing that someone is doing it would be good enough for me, and I trust them. But the fact that we can sit here and have a long discussion about it like this, and it seems like it's the first time such a proposal has come up is just, well, scary. I would like to apologize in advance if I've hurt the feeling of any of the web team. I'm not trying to attack anyone or claim they're not competent in any way. I'm just calling things as I see them. It's even possible that somehas has done the kind of analysis I speak of above, and just didn't think it was necessary present the info to all of ENWorld's users. And PC, I realize that this discussion isn't the true purpose of this thread, but I don't know where else to take it at the moment. If you would rather start this up elsewhere, I have no problems with it. [/QUOTE]

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