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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Adlon" data-source="post: 1848039" data-attributes="member: 1972">I like that...One machine Eric, the other Noah.eric.enworld.orgnoah.enworld.orgDont worry, MM, these are the network names of the boxes. We can alias a bunch..Funny, I SWORE I'd not post in this thread. Being in this business for years, to me, a hardware discussion is like an Edition thread here ....I'm definately am for the Opterons, especially for free. For those of you who have NOT delved many layers deep into specs, the A64fx*'s are essentially Opterons. But, one would have to go deep into the specs to actually get confirmation on that.I cant see the need for any more than the two Opterons, but adding 6 more would be fun .........Maybe I can build a Beowulf Cluster .....Well, as far as the 'worth' of Cyberstreet, hosted, vs. Co-located, etc, et al;I've spent approx 15 hours this year working/adminning/troubleshooting/securing the box. At $150/hour, that would equate to about $2200.00.Add those fees, which would be REAL to the cookie cutter co-lo/dedicated hosting firms, and the ever so slight bargain is long gone.This site, and even though I'm 'on the inside' I have NO clue about the total revenue that ENWorld generates, so, I'll GUESS, based on the activities of this year...TWO fund raisers alone: + or - $25,000.Regular billable services: hosting, advertisements, etc, yadda yadda.MAYBE another $5-10-15,000 per year?Lets use the 10K figure for the ads... Stay with me now ... Again, I'm GUESSING......but, I may be close...25,000 per year potential: fund raisers10,000 per year: ad revenues/store revenues.--------$35,00035K. So, at the very base, the files that make up the entire ENWorld site are worth approx $35,000 a year to Morrus.Lets say you are Morrus. You, being Morrus, want to send someone $35,000. You do so, and have a bad experience. But, you manage to get your money back, after MUCH headache.You take a chance again, on someone else. It works out, and you are happy. You're happy with the price, the extra perks, etc.Now, a person you've never met before, except in some online chat/forum, suggests you take that $35,000, and send it to THIS or THAT guy instead.Well, if YOU are happy and content with the way someone handles your $35,000, would you really consider changing? Would it be so easy?Now, let me state something right straight out. We do NOT have Morrus by any body part whatsoever.For those who were here 3 years ago, when ENWorld was hosted on a DEDICATED NT box. The service was crap. HTTPD/IIS/web server software had to be restarted once a day, at least.As Morrus said, his experience with their tech support was TERRIBLE.His monthly fee's were not too different from what is being paid now.Somehow, Morrus and I began talking. IIRC, I offered to help get the OLD vBulletin working better, and had suggested Linux as a better alternative to NT.I opened up MY site, <a href="http://www.mortality.net/board" target="_blank">http://www.mortality.net/board</a> to do a test: Linux vs. NT. We asked for ALL ENWorld members to try to crash my server.My then little Celeron 400 server, with 128 MB or RAM, handled the horrendous assault of ENWorld members well. Yes, mySQL errors abounded, as my server couldn't handle the amount of querries. One or two PHP optimizations done on the fly helped some.BUT, my server, nor the OS, never went down. The apps failed due to volume, but the box and OS itself gave everyone the middle finger.Discussions ensued. I offered to build a box, and get it hosted on Cyberstreet. I got Morrus the rate, he agreed. The rest is history. Well, I guess all that I just said is history, no?The ONLY problem with Cyberstreet, is that it's in a flood zone, only invoked when a Hurricane shows it's face. We're a block and a half from the Caloosahatchee river, after all.I work closely with Walter, the owner of Cyberstreet. I have root access on the entire LAN. I have the keys to the building.There are 'cheaper' deals out there. You'll never know if it's BETTER, though, until you take your $35,000, and send it off, to people you dont know, people you've NEVER met, and to an unknown environment.Morrus has two of those 3 variables handled. He starts from scratch if he moves.I'd be sorry, if for some reason, Morrus moved elsewhere. I'd even call his A$$ across the pond to ask if he's feeling ok....But, it's Morrus' decision, and, he's been here before, and knows what he wants. I hope Cyberstreet continue to give it to him, as I'm sure they will.</blockquote>

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