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Tedium for balance. Should we balance powerful effects with bookkeeping?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9121269" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>Is that really highly skilled, though? Like. I am skilled at video games. I hold three world records. My skill doesn't come from counting what I have, it comes from the execution of how to play it, my experience playing it, my knowledge of how to handle bad situations and compensate on the fly</p><p></p><p>And as D&D is a Tabletop Role Playing Game, then I'm of the opinion Role Playing should be the thing that's rewarded. Not bookkeeping. We're here to roll dice and have our characters go on adventures, not book up Excel and go through spreadsheets. All this minutia and busywork is just getting away from the real meat of the game and it involves rules that people have ignored for years because it took away from the aspects people enjoyed, and didn't bring enough to add in. Making it strong to deal with is just, making people engage with it for strength alone and not enjoyment. Why bother?</p><p></p><p>I disagree strongly that it should be rewarded that high or be more than a personal choice. Some people like the absolute nose to the grindstone hardness of RLCraft or the like, where Minecraft's whole 'punch trees' start is instead completely removed, but others of us would instead like to play the game and not have to worry about a 600 hp dragon descending from the sky 5 minutes into playing because no limit was placed on where the Ice and Fire dragons could spawn and those things have a targetting range as high as the map is wide and will just instantly obliterate you from off-screen. The end result of using it or not is the same, its just one path leads to "Strip-mining the nether for cobalt to make Ardite" a bit faster</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9121269, member: 6801776"] Is that really highly skilled, though? Like. I am skilled at video games. I hold three world records. My skill doesn't come from counting what I have, it comes from the execution of how to play it, my experience playing it, my knowledge of how to handle bad situations and compensate on the fly And as D&D is a Tabletop Role Playing Game, then I'm of the opinion Role Playing should be the thing that's rewarded. Not bookkeeping. We're here to roll dice and have our characters go on adventures, not book up Excel and go through spreadsheets. All this minutia and busywork is just getting away from the real meat of the game and it involves rules that people have ignored for years because it took away from the aspects people enjoyed, and didn't bring enough to add in. Making it strong to deal with is just, making people engage with it for strength alone and not enjoyment. Why bother? I disagree strongly that it should be rewarded that high or be more than a personal choice. Some people like the absolute nose to the grindstone hardness of RLCraft or the like, where Minecraft's whole 'punch trees' start is instead completely removed, but others of us would instead like to play the game and not have to worry about a 600 hp dragon descending from the sky 5 minutes into playing because no limit was placed on where the Ice and Fire dragons could spawn and those things have a targetting range as high as the map is wide and will just instantly obliterate you from off-screen. The end result of using it or not is the same, its just one path leads to "Strip-mining the nether for cobalt to make Ardite" a bit faster [/QUOTE]
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