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<blockquote data-quote="Shayuri" data-source="post: 1716572" data-attributes="member: 4936"><p>As the rules are written, you do indeed use the minimum attributes necessary to cast the spell that the item is simulating. This applies not only to DC's, but any other situation where attributes are important for determining item function.</p><p></p><p>BAB however is not a function of attribute, but of caster level. You would indeed use the BAB of a wizard or sorceror of the same level as the caster level of the item. However, any item can, for an additional cost, be created at a level over the minimum stated in the SRD or DMG. Thus the BAB of a Ring of Telekinesis could be higher than +4. It would then cost commensurately more though.</p><p></p><p>As for your questions regarding lifting, it's definitely possible to lift companions that fit within the weight limit (if they voluntarily fail their save, of course). You can't move them very fast unless you violently hurl them, but it could be used as you suggest to navigate pits and other obstacles.</p><p></p><p>But you can't, as I understand it, target yourself with a TK spell. There is a Prestige Class called Master of the Unseen Hand that lets you pull this stunt, but aside from that, I don't think it's possible using the base spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shayuri, post: 1716572, member: 4936"] As the rules are written, you do indeed use the minimum attributes necessary to cast the spell that the item is simulating. This applies not only to DC's, but any other situation where attributes are important for determining item function. BAB however is not a function of attribute, but of caster level. You would indeed use the BAB of a wizard or sorceror of the same level as the caster level of the item. However, any item can, for an additional cost, be created at a level over the minimum stated in the SRD or DMG. Thus the BAB of a Ring of Telekinesis could be higher than +4. It would then cost commensurately more though. As for your questions regarding lifting, it's definitely possible to lift companions that fit within the weight limit (if they voluntarily fail their save, of course). You can't move them very fast unless you violently hurl them, but it could be used as you suggest to navigate pits and other obstacles. But you can't, as I understand it, target yourself with a TK spell. There is a Prestige Class called Master of the Unseen Hand that lets you pull this stunt, but aside from that, I don't think it's possible using the base spell. [/QUOTE]
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