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Message: <blockquote data-quote="coyote6" data-source="post: 5057255" data-attributes="member: 1225">A beholder's CL13 telekinesis can only move 325 lbs; that would be a small amount of rubble, which is barely 2.3 cu ft -- I could see where a carefully placed 325 lb chunk of rock would pin someone (depending on their Strength), but thrown from outside an antimagic zone, it would seem unlikely to pin someone. So I'd definitely give a Ref save to avoid, and a not-terribly-difficult roll of some sort to escape. It's a long way from dropping a whole roof or avalanche on someone, IMHO.What you might want to do is to pin the guy down first, with carefully-moved rubble; then zap 'em with the antimagic. It might be hard to pull off, timing-wise.Edit: per the rules on collapsing ceilings, a 5x5 zone of rubble weighs 2000 lbs, is Ref DC 15 to avoid (half damage & not buried), and possibly a Str 25 check to free yourself; the beholder's tossed rubble is less than a sixth of that, so that Str DC should probably be much lower. Maybe DC 15? That's a wild guess.FWIW, it also says a barehanded person can clear five times their heavy load of rubble in one minute; that's half the heavy load in one round, so a Str 12 would clear 65 lbs/round.</blockquote>