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Telekinesis:Violent thrust to the roof or off a cliff? Does being "hurled" draw AoOs?
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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 2324772" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>By RAW, is it permited to send someone to the ceiling or up into the air [targeting empty space]? or do HAVE to TK someone against a object, wall, or creature? </p><p></p><p>Also would <s>this movement</s> <em>being hurled</em> draw AoOs from those who threaten the creature being Violently Thrusted by the Vrock. <s>In effect would an ally get an attempt to grapple the creature being thrusted [adding its weight to top out the TK limit.</s> And would the Vrock Get an AoO should It thrust the victim past it or AT it [it has got 10 points of DR, reach and combat reflexes]</p><p></p><p>I am a touch curious since my Players may soon face a Vrock in a moutainous area. </p><p></p><p>[Sblock=Telekinesis]</p><p>Transmutation</p><p>Level: Sor/Wiz 5 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level) Target or Targets: See text Duration: Concentration (up to 1 round/ level) or instantaneous; see text Saving Throw: Will negates (object) or None; see text Spell Resistance: Yes (object); see text</p><p></p><p>You move objects or creatures by concentrating on them. Depending on the version selected, the spell can provide a gentle, sustained force, perform a variety of combat maneuvers, or exert a single short, violent thrust.</p><p></p><p>Sustained Force: A sustained force moves an object weighing no more than 25 pounds per caster level (maximum 375 pounds at 15th level) up to 20 feet per round. A creature can negate the effect on an object it possesses with a successful Will save or with spell resistance.</p><p></p><p>This version of the spell can last 1 round per caster level, but it ends if you cease concentration. The weight can be moved vertically, horizontally, or in both directions. An object cannot be moved beyond your range. The spell ends if the object is forced beyond the range. If you cease concentration for any reason, the object falls or stops.</p><p></p><p>An object can be telekinetically manipulated as if with one hand. For example, a lever or rope can be pulled, a key can be turned, an object rotated, and so on, if the force required is within the weight limitation. You might even be able to untie simple knots, though delicate activities such as these require Intelligence checks.</p><p></p><p>Combat Maneuver: Alternatively, once per round, you can use telekinesis to perform a bull rush, disarm, grapple (including pin), or trip. Resolve these attempts as normal, except that they don’t provoke attacks of opportunity, you use your caster level in place of your base attack bonus (for disarm and grapple), you use your Intelligence modifier (if a wizard) or Charisma modifier (if a sorcerer) in place of your Strength or Dexterity modifier, and a failed attempt doesn’t allow a reactive attempt by the target (such as for disarm or trip). No save is allowed against these attempts, but spell resistance applies normally. This version of the spell can last 1 round per caster level, but it ends if you cease concentration.</p><p></p><p>Violent Thrust: Alternatively, the spell energy can be spent in a single round. You can hurl one object or creature per caster level (maximum 15) that are within range and all within 10 feet of each other toward <strong>any target</strong> within 10 feet per level of all the objects. You can hurl up to a total weight of 25 pounds per caster level (maximum 375 pounds at 15th level).</p><p></p><p>You must succeed on attack rolls (one per creature or object thrown) to hit the target with the items, using your base attack bonus + your Intelligence modifier (if a wizard) or Charisma modifier (if a sorcerer). Weapons cause standard damage (with no Strength bonus; note that arrows or bolts deal damage as daggers of their size when used in this manner). Other objects cause damage ranging from 1 point per 25 pounds (for less dangerous objects) to 1d6 points of damage per 25 pounds (for hard, dense objects).</p><p></p><p>Creatures who fall within the weight capacity of the spell can be hurled, but they are allowed Will saves (and spell resistance) to negate the effect, as are those whose held possessions are targeted by the spell. If a telekinesed creature is hurled against a solid surface, it takes damage as if it had fallen 10 feet (1d6 points).[/Sblock]</p><p></p><p></p><p>[Sblock=VROCK]</p><p>Large Outsider (Chaotic, Extraplanar, Evil) Hit Dice: 10d8+70 (115 hp) Initiative: +2 Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), fly 50 ft. (average) Armor Class: 22 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +11 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 20 Base Attack/Grapple: +10/+20 Attack: Claw +15 melee (2d6+6) Full Attack: 2 claws +15 melee (2d6+6) and bite +13 melee (1d8+3) and 2 talons +13 melee (1d6+3) Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft. Special Attacks: Dance of ruin, spell-like abilities, spores, stunning screech, summon demon Special Qualities: Damage reduction 10/good, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to electricity and poison, resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10, spell resistance 17, telepathy 100 ft. Saves: Fort +14, Ref +9, Will +10 Abilities: Str 23, Dex 15, Con 25, Int 14, Wis 16, Cha 16 Skills: Concentration +20, Diplomacy +5, Hide +11, Intimidate +16, Knowledge (any one) +15, Listen +24, Move Silently +15, Search +15, Sense Motive +16, Spellcraft +15, Spot +24, Survival +3 (+5 following tracks) Feats: Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Multiattack, Power Attack Environment: A chaotic evil-aligned plane Organization: Solitary, pair, gang (3–5), or squad (6–10) Challenge Rating: 9 Treasure: Standard Alignment: Always chaotic evil Advancement: 11–14 HD (Large); 15–30 HD (Huge) Level Adjustment: +8</p><p></p><p>A vrock is about 8 feet tall and weighs about 500 pounds.</p><p>Combat</p><p></p><p>Vrocks are vicious fighters who like to fly down into the enemy and cause as much damage as possible. They prance about in battle, taking briefly to the air and bringing their clawed feet into play. Despite their advantage in mobility, the vrocks’ deep love of battle frequently leads them into melee combats against heavy odds.</p><p></p><p>A vrock’s natural weapons, as well as any weapons it wields, are treated as chaotic-aligned and evil-aligned for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.</p><p></p><p>Dance of Ruin (Su): To use this ability, a group of at least three vrocks must join hands in a circle, dancing wildly and chanting. At the end of 3 rounds of dancing, a wave of crackling energy flashes outward in a 100-foot radius. All creatures except for demons within the radius take 20d6 points of damage (Reflex DC 18 half ). Stunning, paralyzing, or slaying one of the vrocks stops the dance. The save DC is Charisma-based.</p><p></p><p>Spell-Like Abilities: Caster level 12th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.</p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>At will - mirror image, telekinesis (DC 18), greater teleport (self plus 50 pounds of objects only);</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>1/day - heroism.</strong></p><p></p><p>Spores (Ex): A vrock can release masses of spores from its body once every 3 rounds as a free action. The spores automatically deal 1d8 points of damage to all creatures adjacent to the vrock. They then penetrate the skin and grow, dealing an additional 1d4 points of damage each round for 10 rounds. At the end of this time, the victim is covered with a tangle of viny growths. (The vines are harmless and wither away in 1d4 days.) A delay poison spell stops the spores’ growth for its duration. Bless, neutralize poison, or remove disease kills the spores, as does sprinkling the victim with a vial of holy water.</p><p></p><p>Stunning Screech (Su): Once per hour a vrock can emit a piercing screech. All creatures except for demons within a 30-foot radius must succeed on a DC 22 Fortitude save or be stunned for 1 round. The save DC is Constitution-based.</p><p></p><p>Summon Demon (Sp): Once per day a vrock can attempt to summon 2d10 dretches or another vrock with a 35% chance of success. This ability is the equivalent of a 3rd-level spell.</p><p></p><p>Skills: Vrocks have a +8 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. [/Sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 2324772, member: 1164"] By RAW, is it permited to send someone to the ceiling or up into the air [targeting empty space]? or do HAVE to TK someone against a object, wall, or creature? Also would [S]this movement[/S] [I]being hurled[/I] draw AoOs from those who threaten the creature being Violently Thrusted by the Vrock. [S]In effect would an ally get an attempt to grapple the creature being thrusted [adding its weight to top out the TK limit.[/S] And would the Vrock Get an AoO should It thrust the victim past it or AT it [it has got 10 points of DR, reach and combat reflexes] I am a touch curious since my Players may soon face a Vrock in a moutainous area. [Sblock=Telekinesis] Transmutation Level: Sor/Wiz 5 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level) Target or Targets: See text Duration: Concentration (up to 1 round/ level) or instantaneous; see text Saving Throw: Will negates (object) or None; see text Spell Resistance: Yes (object); see text You move objects or creatures by concentrating on them. Depending on the version selected, the spell can provide a gentle, sustained force, perform a variety of combat maneuvers, or exert a single short, violent thrust. Sustained Force: A sustained force moves an object weighing no more than 25 pounds per caster level (maximum 375 pounds at 15th level) up to 20 feet per round. A creature can negate the effect on an object it possesses with a successful Will save or with spell resistance. This version of the spell can last 1 round per caster level, but it ends if you cease concentration. The weight can be moved vertically, horizontally, or in both directions. An object cannot be moved beyond your range. The spell ends if the object is forced beyond the range. If you cease concentration for any reason, the object falls or stops. An object can be telekinetically manipulated as if with one hand. For example, a lever or rope can be pulled, a key can be turned, an object rotated, and so on, if the force required is within the weight limitation. You might even be able to untie simple knots, though delicate activities such as these require Intelligence checks. Combat Maneuver: Alternatively, once per round, you can use telekinesis to perform a bull rush, disarm, grapple (including pin), or trip. Resolve these attempts as normal, except that they don’t provoke attacks of opportunity, you use your caster level in place of your base attack bonus (for disarm and grapple), you use your Intelligence modifier (if a wizard) or Charisma modifier (if a sorcerer) in place of your Strength or Dexterity modifier, and a failed attempt doesn’t allow a reactive attempt by the target (such as for disarm or trip). No save is allowed against these attempts, but spell resistance applies normally. This version of the spell can last 1 round per caster level, but it ends if you cease concentration. Violent Thrust: Alternatively, the spell energy can be spent in a single round. You can hurl one object or creature per caster level (maximum 15) that are within range and all within 10 feet of each other toward [b]any target[/b] within 10 feet per level of all the objects. You can hurl up to a total weight of 25 pounds per caster level (maximum 375 pounds at 15th level). You must succeed on attack rolls (one per creature or object thrown) to hit the target with the items, using your base attack bonus + your Intelligence modifier (if a wizard) or Charisma modifier (if a sorcerer). Weapons cause standard damage (with no Strength bonus; note that arrows or bolts deal damage as daggers of their size when used in this manner). Other objects cause damage ranging from 1 point per 25 pounds (for less dangerous objects) to 1d6 points of damage per 25 pounds (for hard, dense objects). Creatures who fall within the weight capacity of the spell can be hurled, but they are allowed Will saves (and spell resistance) to negate the effect, as are those whose held possessions are targeted by the spell. If a telekinesed creature is hurled against a solid surface, it takes damage as if it had fallen 10 feet (1d6 points).[/Sblock] [Sblock=VROCK] Large Outsider (Chaotic, Extraplanar, Evil) Hit Dice: 10d8+70 (115 hp) Initiative: +2 Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), fly 50 ft. (average) Armor Class: 22 (–1 size, +2 Dex, +11 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 20 Base Attack/Grapple: +10/+20 Attack: Claw +15 melee (2d6+6) Full Attack: 2 claws +15 melee (2d6+6) and bite +13 melee (1d8+3) and 2 talons +13 melee (1d6+3) Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft. Special Attacks: Dance of ruin, spell-like abilities, spores, stunning screech, summon demon Special Qualities: Damage reduction 10/good, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to electricity and poison, resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10, spell resistance 17, telepathy 100 ft. Saves: Fort +14, Ref +9, Will +10 Abilities: Str 23, Dex 15, Con 25, Int 14, Wis 16, Cha 16 Skills: Concentration +20, Diplomacy +5, Hide +11, Intimidate +16, Knowledge (any one) +15, Listen +24, Move Silently +15, Search +15, Sense Motive +16, Spellcraft +15, Spot +24, Survival +3 (+5 following tracks) Feats: Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Multiattack, Power Attack Environment: A chaotic evil-aligned plane Organization: Solitary, pair, gang (3–5), or squad (6–10) Challenge Rating: 9 Treasure: Standard Alignment: Always chaotic evil Advancement: 11–14 HD (Large); 15–30 HD (Huge) Level Adjustment: +8 A vrock is about 8 feet tall and weighs about 500 pounds. Combat Vrocks are vicious fighters who like to fly down into the enemy and cause as much damage as possible. They prance about in battle, taking briefly to the air and bringing their clawed feet into play. Despite their advantage in mobility, the vrocks’ deep love of battle frequently leads them into melee combats against heavy odds. A vrock’s natural weapons, as well as any weapons it wields, are treated as chaotic-aligned and evil-aligned for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction. Dance of Ruin (Su): To use this ability, a group of at least three vrocks must join hands in a circle, dancing wildly and chanting. At the end of 3 rounds of dancing, a wave of crackling energy flashes outward in a 100-foot radius. All creatures except for demons within the radius take 20d6 points of damage (Reflex DC 18 half ). Stunning, paralyzing, or slaying one of the vrocks stops the dance. The save DC is Charisma-based. Spell-Like Abilities: Caster level 12th. The save DCs are Charisma-based. [b] At will - mirror image, telekinesis (DC 18), greater teleport (self plus 50 pounds of objects only); 1/day - heroism.[/b] Spores (Ex): A vrock can release masses of spores from its body once every 3 rounds as a free action. The spores automatically deal 1d8 points of damage to all creatures adjacent to the vrock. They then penetrate the skin and grow, dealing an additional 1d4 points of damage each round for 10 rounds. At the end of this time, the victim is covered with a tangle of viny growths. (The vines are harmless and wither away in 1d4 days.) A delay poison spell stops the spores’ growth for its duration. Bless, neutralize poison, or remove disease kills the spores, as does sprinkling the victim with a vial of holy water. Stunning Screech (Su): Once per hour a vrock can emit a piercing screech. All creatures except for demons within a 30-foot radius must succeed on a DC 22 Fortitude save or be stunned for 1 round. The save DC is Constitution-based. Summon Demon (Sp): Once per day a vrock can attempt to summon 2d10 dretches or another vrock with a 35% chance of success. This ability is the equivalent of a 3rd-level spell. Skills: Vrocks have a +8 racial bonus on Listen and Spot checks. [/Sblock] [/QUOTE]
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