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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 13200" data-attributes="member: 158">Lizard Lips,(I never did meet anyone who ever asked to be called that before <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)What you are describing here also goes for the 5th level teleport as well as all other 5th level + spells that offer instantaneous or near-instantaneous travel. These spells drastically change the nature of the campaign, and it is a part of D&amp;D - it has been since 1978 (or even earlier).A DM has to either remove these elements forcibly, or has to come to terms with them in the campaign, and make allowances for them - no adventures with tight timetables of travel, or none that prevent the PC's from going somewhere physically, forcing them to find some other way. By that level, the challenges of low-level adventurers are not suitable for high-level adventurers, anyway.However, take what Psion said in mind. Teleport circle is no mere cantrip - it requires huge expenditures on the part of the wizard to make permanent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 13200, member: 158"] Lizard Lips, (I never did meet anyone who ever [i]asked[/i] to be called that before :)) What you are describing here also goes for the 5th level teleport as well as all other 5th level + spells that offer instantaneous or near-instantaneous travel. These spells drastically change the nature of the campaign, and it is a part of D&D - it has been since 1978 (or even earlier). A DM has to either remove these elements forcibly, or has to come to terms with them in the campaign, and make allowances for them - no adventures with tight timetables of travel, or none that prevent the PC's from going somewhere physically, forcing them to find some other way. By that level, the challenges of low-level adventurers are not suitable for high-level adventurers, anyway. However, take what Psion said in mind. Teleport circle is no mere cantrip - it requires huge expenditures on the part of the wizard to make permanent. [/QUOTE]

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