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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7229092" data-attributes="member: 6775031">Did the cleric do anything, though? I mean, you've labelled these as cantrips, which implies a later-edition take on them. I don't remember how Light used to work, back in the day, but Create Water is just about the definition of subtlety. If your water skins are suddenly full, where previously they were not, then something happened and you might chalk it up to a miracle, but it's hardly overt. It's not like you create a ball of water in the air which falls into the container. Likewise, Mending is more along the lines of a stage magician's trick.If you touch someone and they die, then you have plausible deniability, unless you set them on fire or something. If you touch someone and they don't die, when you might otherwise expect that they would, then maybe they just got lucky. Unless that wound was described as a gaping chest wound, before you cured it, you may not have had much of a visible effect on it; that really goes down to an issue of maintaining consistency with your narration, though.If you're in the middle of combat and a cloud of fog appears around you, then that could just be a coincidence. They might not have reason to expect otherwise unless they had already seen a wizard in action, which was nowhere near the expectation for much of the game's history. Spellcasters were supposed to be rare.Yeah, the era of subtle divine magic was really in AD&D and earlier. Third edition marks a dramatic shift toward overt divine magic, which was finalized with 4E.</blockquote>

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