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<blockquote data-quote="DeJoker" data-source="post: 7230669" data-attributes="member: 6907519"><p>Boy your limitation on reading must be pretty severe because frankly there are numerous books (fiction) that have folks that can do obvious miracles -- further it was historically believed by the general populace that these religious folks could do miracles and they did do things that may have resembled miracles such as causing an alter to catch fire when calling upon their deity (yeah it was a sham but the general populace thought it was a real miracle as the priests wanted them to) then of course the other ones <strong>Caliban</strong> posted.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You do realize that is an oxymoron do you not as you cannot have a "normal" fantasy world -- you either have a normal world or you have a fantasy world you cannot have both.</p><p></p><p>That being said what you are actually saying is you cannot have a fantasy world that adheres to your particular view (as I believe you are the "some people" in this instance) of how it should be if you had priests running around doing obvious miracles and that would be correct but then that is completely out of scope of what was actually being discussed. So if you want to argue that your fantasy world is this way then you have absolutely no argument what so ever because what you do with your fantasy world is what you do with it end of story. Just do not expect everyone else to adhere to your limited view of what a fantasy world can look like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DeJoker, post: 7230669, member: 6907519"] Boy your limitation on reading must be pretty severe because frankly there are numerous books (fiction) that have folks that can do obvious miracles -- further it was historically believed by the general populace that these religious folks could do miracles and they did do things that may have resembled miracles such as causing an alter to catch fire when calling upon their deity (yeah it was a sham but the general populace thought it was a real miracle as the priests wanted them to) then of course the other ones [B]Caliban[/B] posted. You do realize that is an oxymoron do you not as you cannot have a "normal" fantasy world -- you either have a normal world or you have a fantasy world you cannot have both. That being said what you are actually saying is you cannot have a fantasy world that adheres to your particular view (as I believe you are the "some people" in this instance) of how it should be if you had priests running around doing obvious miracles and that would be correct but then that is completely out of scope of what was actually being discussed. So if you want to argue that your fantasy world is this way then you have absolutely no argument what so ever because what you do with your fantasy world is what you do with it end of story. Just do not expect everyone else to adhere to your limited view of what a fantasy world can look like. [/QUOTE]
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