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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 7231555" data-attributes="member: 6786252">Sure they do.  Alchemists and other learned scholars of ages past were often considered to be magical.  Sure, it was just sufficently advanced technology, but its based on actual people.And how do wizards cast magic?  They study elemental forces and weave them into magic, almost like it was a kind of scholastic science.  The only reason its not science is that wizardry doesn't specifically follow the scientific process. And now we need to talk about misconceptions about 5e classes function.   AGAIN.Misty step is not a core paladin ability.  It is specifically part of two SUBCLASSES.  Each subclass has its own themes and feel to it.  The divine soul sorcerer is thematically linked to the life cleric.  The Oath of devotion is thematically linked to LG gods and their clerics.  The proposed celestial pact warlock is related as well.   If you want to argue it doesn't make sense for this specific type of paladin?  Absolutely, I agree with that.  You want to argue against the oathbreaker or crown or the UA paladins having it?  Oh, hey, they don't.The avenger, both in 3e and 4, had teleport magic.  You cannot say that Misty Step does not make sense for an Oath of Vengence, when history is clearly on the side of giving it.Want to argue against the warden-tribute Ancient getting it?  Actually, I agree it doesn't fit here, but that's becaue the Ancient paladin uses magic in a similar manner to the druid, not the different cleric subclasses.  Its nature oriented, not divine, and misty step doesn't feel nature-themed to me.   Still, the reason for rejection has nothing to do with the spell being related to "cleric" magic.Each subclass needs to be judged on its own themes.  Lumping them together is a misunderstanding.   Saying that paladin magic is related to cleric magic is a gross misunderstanding.  That's not how things work in 5e.</blockquote>

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