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<blockquote data-quote="Baldurs_Underdark" data-source="post: 8482952" data-attributes="member: 6880355">If a spellcaster with Teleport has an object from a location, but has never been to a location, would the teleport spell be successful?The text of the spell says:The destination you choose must be known to you, and it must be on the same plane of existence as you. Your familiarity with the destination determines whether you arrive there successfully.If you have an associated object, the teleport will be on target. But what I am uncertain about is if it would succeed in the first place as the location may not be &quot;known to you&quot;.The spell description continues with: &quot;Associated Object&quot; means that you possess an object taken from the desired destination within the last six months. That does not specify that you had to take the object yourself.I'm inclined to rule that you need to have visited a location at least once before you can teleport to it. Otherwise, even with an object in your inventory, if you have never been there, you roll the odds associated with &quot;Description&quot; is a place whose Location and Appearance you know through someone else's description, perhaps from a map. If we turn this around, and you can safely teleport to a location when you have an object, even if you have never been there: Every location of importance would need to have Forbiddance cast on it (or some other anti-teleport spell that I'm not aware of) because there would be a black market for grains of sand or other worthless scraps from castles, vaults, libraries or other places with valuables so adventurers can teleport in. And being a servant in any such location means you need to undergo an extremely thorough investigation when you leave the workplace because a single grain of sand smuggled out can undermine the security of the location.How would you all DM this?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baldurs_Underdark, post: 8482952, member: 6880355"] If a spellcaster with Teleport has an object from a location, but has never been to a location, would the teleport spell be successful? The text of the spell says: [I]The destination you choose must be [U]known to you[/U], and it must be on the same plane of existence as you. Your familiarity with the destination determines whether you arrive there successfully.[/I] If you have an associated object, the teleport will be on target. But what I am uncertain about is if it would succeed in the first place as the location may not be "[I]known to you[/I]". The spell description continues with: [I]"Associated Object" means that you possess an object taken from the desired destination within the last six months. [/I]That does not specify that you had to take the object yourself. I'm inclined to rule that you need to have visited a location at least once before you can teleport to it. Otherwise, even with an object in your inventory, if you have never been there, you roll the odds associated with [I]"Description" is a place whose Location and Appearance you know through someone else's description, perhaps from a map. [/I] If we turn this around, and you can safely teleport to a location when you have an object, even if you have never been there: Every location of importance would need to have Forbiddance cast on it (or some other anti-teleport spell that I'm not aware of) because there would be a black market for grains of sand or other worthless scraps from castles, vaults, libraries or other places with valuables so adventurers can teleport in. And being a servant in any such location means you need to undergo an extremely thorough investigation when you leave the workplace because a single grain of sand smuggled out can undermine the security of the location. How would you all DM this? [/QUOTE]

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