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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nichwee" data-source="post: 5116622" data-attributes="member: 84242">If you want to teleport to the same square you are in and not move I would allow this imo - as the player can. 90% of the time, just teleport 1 square up then fall the 5ft back to the floor - take no damage from falling and thus not go prone.This has pretty much the same effect as teleporting 0 squares, so why not just let the guy teleport 0?If you want to teleport an enemy 0 squares to count as leaving and reentering a zone - I call foul, as the equivalent trick against an enemy wouldn't leave any zone that wasn't 1 Square and would allow a saving throw to avoid the vertical teleport and fall (even if no damage comes from the fall).So imo a Teleport 0 on a willing target should be ok - on an enemy it should only be considered to have happened if the "movement" has no effect on the game state of the enemy in question. As such I might allow a teleport 0 effect on an enemy that triggered a "If you teleport an enemy using one of your powers that enemy is dazed until the end of your next turn" effect - as I would feel the unexpectted exposure to the Feywild causes the dazed not the motion but no Leave/Enter effects related to the square would trigger.And as an aside into pure RAW not RAI (Not sure what side of this arguement I take tbh):I suddenly find myslef wondering if Pushing someone 0 squares can still be considered Pushing them? If you have an effect that says, for eg, "If you push an enemy, that enemy is knocked prone", and you use a power that pushes 3 squares but you choose to push 0 - would the enemy still be prone?You can use a move action to Walk 0 and still have been assumed to have used a move action (so can now Stealth say) so can you Push 0 and still have pushed? Would the arguement change on a Shift 0, as a Push must get further away but a Shift can be any direction, so can it be No Direction? Suddenly thinking about Shifts/Push/Pull as vectors that can have a direction even if they have 0 magnetude - So a Push 0 does still move them away from you - just a total of 0 squares away.Please no flames - I am purely asking from a theoretical view point on RAW - not any desire to abuse this (I would probably DM it as "Does that sound cool but not too cheesy? Alright then." and play it as "I'll just assume this doesn't work.").</blockquote>

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