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Message: <blockquote data-quote="feartheminotaur" data-source="post: 6833912" data-attributes="member: 6801354">I have one game at 12th (from 1st) and one at 16th (from 2nd) and have played several high level one-offs at the FLGS and on Roll20.My thoughts:1. ABC - Always Be Combo-ing: Players have developed sets of action combos and most fights will generally feature them no matter the opponent.  Not cheesy, just at 12th+ level, you know what works together (for both PC and party) and what doesn't.   Access to feats accelerates this since a lot of combos (especially melee) are feat based.2. PC power is ridiculous versus the DMG/MM XP guide: I'm not sure if it's due to the desire by the designers to balance encounters in the 'most common levels' sweet spot or what, but once we hit 11th level, "deadly" was decidedly inaccurate.   You'll have to rely on more than a monster's CR to challenge PCs (tactics, terrain, type, etc.).  We hardly got scratched playing the higher levels of Out of the Abyss (lots of the NPCs died though...)3. Magic items are hard to predict, especially in an open ended sandbox-y world.  Rarity is not a great indicator of relative power - you'll want to think about an item before handing it out.  Examples: Table G has +1 armor and +2 weapons; hardly game changing.   It also has the mantle of spell resistance which gives Adv on saves vs spells.  Doesn't seem like much when you read it, but, in actual play, it made the rogue wearing it essentially immune to spell effects.  So, if you planned on prominently feature an evil wizard cabal as a BBEG...makes a big difference vs a simple longsword +2 4. The "work day" concept is useless.  Players have magic that allows them to take a rest of any kind whenever they want.  I'd never advocate punishing them for having that magic, but you'll have to keep that in mind when designing challenges - they can, if they decide, blow all their resources in one go and hole up in a magnificent mansion or the like.5.  The world gets much, much smaller.  Any sandbox you build will need to be bigger and more detailed.  Players can wind walk and teleport with greater success.  They have access to better and more accurate divination spells, and their overall knowledge of the world - everything from types of creatures available for shape changing to the more important movers and shakers across kingdoms and planes - is greater then a 5th -7th level party's.</blockquote>

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