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<blockquote data-quote="Kmart Kommando" data-source="post: 4415727" data-attributes="member: 39915"><p>A Lion has Improved Grab with the bite only, a tiger has it with bite <em>and</em> claws.</p><p></p><p>The Row of enemies I mentioned was 3 enemies in a line perpendicular to the druid's line of movement, with the same square, the one in front of the middle enemy, being the closest legal square to end a charge, which was one of the 2 squares the druid's 'front' face was occupying after the charge. It wasn't like a Ride By Attack sort of thing.</p><p></p><p>The Target was clawed, then grabbed, then held (with a grapple check as a free action per the SRD), then attacked with a rake, then let go by not moving into the opponent's space to maintain the grapple, or pulling the opponent into the tiger's space (per a line in Improved Grab), then continued on with the full attack, resolving each attack in order, then going on to the next, as the SRD says to do.</p><p>If you never reach step 4 of the grappling rules, then your full attack would not be interrupted.</p><p>It's not like it is anything broken, since a normal grappler gets to automatically do damage on the initial grapple check, and a tiger gets to attack with a rake. Other creatures with similar abilities, such as a squid, grapples and automatically deals some damage (bite), and it says "automatically deals bite damage". the tiger entry just says ".. establishes a hold and can Rake..". </p><p>The snake's entry says "..establishes a hold and can constrict", then says "with a successful grapple check, a constrict deals XdX amount of damage"</p><p>Rake says " +x attack, 1dx+x damage"</p><p></p><p>Having 3 cats living here in my house, they fight just like the tiger's entry says. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>maybe that's why commoners are so scared of cats. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kmart Kommando, post: 4415727, member: 39915"] A Lion has Improved Grab with the bite only, a tiger has it with bite [I]and[/I] claws. The Row of enemies I mentioned was 3 enemies in a line perpendicular to the druid's line of movement, with the same square, the one in front of the middle enemy, being the closest legal square to end a charge, which was one of the 2 squares the druid's 'front' face was occupying after the charge. It wasn't like a Ride By Attack sort of thing. The Target was clawed, then grabbed, then held (with a grapple check as a free action per the SRD), then attacked with a rake, then let go by not moving into the opponent's space to maintain the grapple, or pulling the opponent into the tiger's space (per a line in Improved Grab), then continued on with the full attack, resolving each attack in order, then going on to the next, as the SRD says to do. If you never reach step 4 of the grappling rules, then your full attack would not be interrupted. It's not like it is anything broken, since a normal grappler gets to automatically do damage on the initial grapple check, and a tiger gets to attack with a rake. Other creatures with similar abilities, such as a squid, grapples and automatically deals some damage (bite), and it says "automatically deals bite damage". the tiger entry just says ".. establishes a hold and can Rake..". The snake's entry says "..establishes a hold and can constrict", then says "with a successful grapple check, a constrict deals XdX amount of damage" Rake says " +x attack, 1dx+x damage" Having 3 cats living here in my house, they fight just like the tiger's entry says. ;) maybe that's why commoners are so scared of cats. :p [/QUOTE]
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