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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rafial" data-source="post: 4492276" data-attributes="member: 77999">Conversely, BW is a game I love precisely because I am incredibly goal oriented.  The rules give me tons of tools to go about getting it.  Want something? Find creative synergies in what you know how to do.  Persuade people to help you.  Find people to help you.  Gather resources.  Set up situations to your advantage.  Take your time.  Invest your mojo.  Then and only then roll the dice.Yeah, sometimes even after all that preparation, the dice still leave you high and dry, but when you do come out ahead (and if you work at it, its more often than not), you get an enormous sense of accomplishment that just can't be matched otherwise.And meanwhile your character is learning things, becoming someone different, and making hard decisions about how much they are willing to put on the line for the things they care about.  How cool is that?I think the key discriminator in determining if you will like Burning Wheel is assessing what it is you like about games.  If you like mastering rules systems, finding what knobs and levers those rules give you to direct the flow of play to your advantage, and are willing to grab those tools and use them to the fullest, then BW is a hell of a lot of fun, and will produce enormously engaging fiction into the bargain.  If you would rather be told what die to roll and when, and dislike engaging with rules, then BW is absolutely not your game.</blockquote>

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