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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9373460" data-attributes="member: 7034611"><p>I am only seeing one that shows me how much I presumably save</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]367260[/ATTACH]</p><p>but no explanation how this is calculated beyond saying that this includes the savings from unlocked content and a bit further down the following</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Free Beta Access: ALL Kickstarter Backers get access to the Beta of DC20 that they will receive IMMEDIATELY when the Kickstarter ends.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lowest Price: During the Kickstarter is when you can get the PDF and Hardcover at the lowest price.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Free PDF w/ Hardcover: During the Kickstarter the PDF comes with the Hardcover for FREE.</li> </ul><p>Placing a value on beta access is already dubious to me. You get access with all KS, almost none sell that access separately however, so it has a value of $0 for those KS, and I am reluctant to allocate a higher value here because ultimately people buy the final product and do not care about not having been in the beta once it is released. I see this as a perk of backing, but a $0 value in the end.</p><p></p><p>The second point I very much doubt, at least for the PDFs. It implies that the price does increase (contrary to you expecting it to stay the same) because eventually there will be some sort of discounted sale, and in my experience eventually those discounts exceed the savings you had as a backer.</p><p>I would not even rule out seeing a bundle of holding with the entire KS PDFs for $25 a few years down the line.</p><p></p><p>Finally, to give you an idea of what is included in each tier there is a longer chart near the end</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]367261[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>For simplicity let’s just focus on the $30 option. I very much doubt the two books sell for more than $15 combined. Let’s say the PDF increases in price by $10, that leaves $15 for the beta access (without access to the final book).</p><p>I do not see those two items turning into $15 books in their own right, with the beta access being a $0 perk for backers.</p><p></p><p>To me that overinflates the savings however, as I consider beta access a perk with $0 value since that is how any other KS I have seen treats it. Pretty sure the DungeonCoach will sell beta access however, he has already done so, and therefore assigns a $15 or $20 value to it here that bumps up the savings. I see no other way to get to $40 in savings</p><p></p><p>EDIT: many KS have no savings at that level or maybe $5 compared to the later price of the book (or addon that was unlocked during the KS), so I am not knocking the Coach for having too small savings, I am only wondering how he arrived at that $40 value.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9373460, member: 7034611"] I am only seeing one that shows me how much I presumably save [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_8671.jpeg"]367260[/ATTACH] but no explanation how this is calculated beyond saying that this includes the savings from unlocked content and a bit further down the following [LIST] [*]Free Beta Access: ALL Kickstarter Backers get access to the Beta of DC20 that they will receive IMMEDIATELY when the Kickstarter ends. [*]Lowest Price: During the Kickstarter is when you can get the PDF and Hardcover at the lowest price. [*]Free PDF w/ Hardcover: During the Kickstarter the PDF comes with the Hardcover for FREE. [/LIST] Placing a value on beta access is already dubious to me. You get access with all KS, almost none sell that access separately however, so it has a value of $0 for those KS, and I am reluctant to allocate a higher value here because ultimately people buy the final product and do not care about not having been in the beta once it is released. I see this as a perk of backing, but a $0 value in the end. The second point I very much doubt, at least for the PDFs. It implies that the price does increase (contrary to you expecting it to stay the same) because eventually there will be some sort of discounted sale, and in my experience eventually those discounts exceed the savings you had as a backer. I would not even rule out seeing a bundle of holding with the entire KS PDFs for $25 a few years down the line. Finally, to give you an idea of what is included in each tier there is a longer chart near the end [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_8672.jpeg"]367261[/ATTACH] For simplicity let’s just focus on the $30 option. I very much doubt the two books sell for more than $15 combined. Let’s say the PDF increases in price by $10, that leaves $15 for the beta access (without access to the final book). I do not see those two items turning into $15 books in their own right, with the beta access being a $0 perk for backers. To me that overinflates the savings however, as I consider beta access a perk with $0 value since that is how any other KS I have seen treats it. Pretty sure the DungeonCoach will sell beta access however, he has already done so, and therefore assigns a $15 or $20 value to it here that bumps up the savings. I see no other way to get to $40 in savings EDIT: many KS have no savings at that level or maybe $5 compared to the later price of the book (or addon that was unlocked during the KS), so I am not knocking the Coach for having too small savings, I am only wondering how he arrived at that $40 value. [/QUOTE]
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