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<blockquote data-quote="kingpaul" data-source="post: 2159735" data-attributes="member: 1477"><p>I'm not sure what that has to do with my statement that only datasets are only available for sale for eTools and PCGen, yet you can create the datasets yourself if you wish.</p><p></p><p>That was WotC's stand when the board, at the time, sat down with Anthony Valterra, then Brand Manager of D&D.</p><p></p><p>You've got some of your statements skewed. The PCGen board had been trying to talk with WotC over the inclusion of the WotC datasets for some time. At GenCon 2002 they were able to do so. During that conversation, Anthony Valterra said that it was WotC's position that PCGen was infringing upon WotC's IP, and, because of that, PCGen would need to remove the WotC IP-related datasets from distribution. It was mentioned at that time that if PCGen became d20 compliant (which it was for a while) that PCGen may be able to once again distribute said datasets. Now, I was also around at this time. It <strong>was</strong> stated that if you had those datasets, you couldn't distribute them because of the IP issues. I don't recall statements saying you had to destroy the copies on your hard drive.</p><p></p><p>Now, PCGen did not get a deal to fix eTools, that was those folks who run CMP. While there is some overlap in leadership, the two entities are separate in what they do.</p><p></p><p>I am not an agent of CMP, however, I'm sure that the permission to distribute Wotc IP in the form of datasets comes with a licensing fee. They pass this on to their customers. Also, they pay the folks who create the datasets for them.</p><p></p><p>And as I said earlier, you can create the material you want yourself without having to buy the datasets.</p><p></p><p>On that, I can not comment because I have no knowledge on the marketing/business decisions on these license datasets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kingpaul, post: 2159735, member: 1477"] I'm not sure what that has to do with my statement that only datasets are only available for sale for eTools and PCGen, yet you can create the datasets yourself if you wish. That was WotC's stand when the board, at the time, sat down with Anthony Valterra, then Brand Manager of D&D. You've got some of your statements skewed. The PCGen board had been trying to talk with WotC over the inclusion of the WotC datasets for some time. At GenCon 2002 they were able to do so. During that conversation, Anthony Valterra said that it was WotC's position that PCGen was infringing upon WotC's IP, and, because of that, PCGen would need to remove the WotC IP-related datasets from distribution. It was mentioned at that time that if PCGen became d20 compliant (which it was for a while) that PCGen may be able to once again distribute said datasets. Now, I was also around at this time. It [b]was[/b] stated that if you had those datasets, you couldn't distribute them because of the IP issues. I don't recall statements saying you had to destroy the copies on your hard drive. Now, PCGen did not get a deal to fix eTools, that was those folks who run CMP. While there is some overlap in leadership, the two entities are separate in what they do. I am not an agent of CMP, however, I'm sure that the permission to distribute Wotc IP in the form of datasets comes with a licensing fee. They pass this on to their customers. Also, they pay the folks who create the datasets for them. And as I said earlier, you can create the material you want yourself without having to buy the datasets. On that, I can not comment because I have no knowledge on the marketing/business decisions on these license datasets. [/QUOTE]
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