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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 5544503" data-attributes="member: 15538"><p>Relative to the base chance of success, though, (16.66%), you are talking about 8%. That's 8% fewer successes. If, out of a hundred trials, the d6 guy would get not quite seventeen successes, the d4 guy gets more than eighteen. </p><p></p><p>Against TN4, the standard, the d4 guy has a 1 in 4 shot. The d6 guy has even odds! But if the TN goes up to 6, for some reason, suddenly the d4 guy has a fairly significant advantage. It's not a rare occurence. You can also get it by having a TN of 8, but getting some kind of +2 bonus. Ta-da.</p><p></p><p>The only way for it not to matter is if you decide not to care. In the end, I've decided not to care, but it is a definite defect in the system if you really want to rely on the probabilities it deals out.</p><p></p><p>Note that a smaller but identical issues occurs with d6 and d8 v. TN 8 and 8 obviously is a common TN. One of the most common. And you still get a 1.3% difference. </p><p></p><p>Given the large number of tests under various circumstances, it's easy enough to ignore. But if you know your math, it's really annoying. </p><p></p><p>And just think, there would be no problem if, in the first place, the designer had decided to be charitible and make the standard TNs 3 and 7. Success tends to be low probability anyway in SW.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 5544503, member: 15538"] Relative to the base chance of success, though, (16.66%), you are talking about 8%. That's 8% fewer successes. If, out of a hundred trials, the d6 guy would get not quite seventeen successes, the d4 guy gets more than eighteen. Against TN4, the standard, the d4 guy has a 1 in 4 shot. The d6 guy has even odds! But if the TN goes up to 6, for some reason, suddenly the d4 guy has a fairly significant advantage. It's not a rare occurence. You can also get it by having a TN of 8, but getting some kind of +2 bonus. Ta-da. The only way for it not to matter is if you decide not to care. In the end, I've decided not to care, but it is a definite defect in the system if you really want to rely on the probabilities it deals out. Note that a smaller but identical issues occurs with d6 and d8 v. TN 8 and 8 obviously is a common TN. One of the most common. And you still get a 1.3% difference. Given the large number of tests under various circumstances, it's easy enough to ignore. But if you know your math, it's really annoying. And just think, there would be no problem if, in the first place, the designer had decided to be charitible and make the standard TNs 3 and 7. Success tends to be low probability anyway in SW. [/QUOTE]
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