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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 5634440" data-attributes="member: 3887">We played around with converting some of our 3e caster PC's (13th-14th level) to Savage Worlds and were happy with the result, using the Explorer's Edition plus the Fantasy Companion, and a few odds and ends from the various setting books. The consensus was Savage Worlds offered a nice, compact set of tools for modelling magic-using characters. From DM's/homebrew author's perspective, I'm finding Savage Worlds to be a better fit for magic than 3e. My setting has idiosyncratic schools of magic which are more easily done using SW's combination of Arcane Backgrounds, Trappings, and a (relatively) small Powers list. It's much simpler than trying to build these schools using 3e, where there never were enough spells of each type for per level (sure, there's always re-skinning, but real mechanical differences are nice sometimes). So far, that's how our SW/Slipstream campaign is playing out -- but I don't think it's a product of the rules, it's just the timbre of that particular game. Then again, I rarely see "depth" as a rules issue. Agree again... but what RPG's simulate real life? SW just seems up-front about what's traditionally been an unspoken assumption about what's actually being simulated. Same here. One week we had a great fight scene, the next we had one that lasted almost the entire session. Which surprised us, since we came to SW from D&D 4e and had thought we were leaving those behind. Granted it was a complicated battle, in complex terrain, against ludicrous anthropomorphic shark gangsters, plus we were tired, but still... I recall feeling "this product isn't exactly as advertised". I'm sure we'll get up to speed on speedy combats in time. I see frequently nods towards "simulation" throughout the rules, such as in many of the Edges/Hindrances, and in the advice to pay attention to the in-game fiction when adjudicating mechanics (I guess the basis for "simulation" is merely consensus common sense). I think that's why my group took to SW rather quickly, to the point of serious considering converting our two stalled 3e and 4e campaign to it. Our D&D games are never based around dungeon crawls --it's arguable our current AD&D campaign will feature a lot of the them.I do believe you're right!</blockquote>

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