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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2647188" data-attributes="member: 707">I'm not going to suggest that your opinion is wrong, as that's obviously impossible.  But I must ask whether your opinion of Jordan's novels now might not be excessively weighted by his later works?I ask this because IMO, Jordan's first four novels were excellent, with The Great Hunt being one of the best fantasy novels I've ever read.  Unfortunately the series degenerates to such a degree that I almost felt insulted reading them (until I stopped reading them, anyway.)  So great is my annoyance with the later books that I often find myself about to jump on the Jordan hate-wagon, before forcibly reminding myself that he has written some really excellent novels.Which one is Faith of the Fallen?  I don't have access to my collection right now, so I can't just go to the bookshelf and read the flap to refresh my memory, sadly.Thanks for the compliment.  Sometimes I won't post to these types of discussions, since making such a post requires a lot of time and thought to be worthwhile, but I had the time, and as you mentioned Goodkind was getting a serious bashing that I felt was unwarranted.  I've seen a lot of Jordan vs. Eddings threads go the same way and I wind up getting roped in to talk about the pros of Eddings. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Well, Jordan didn't exactly create a lot of these concepts himself.  If the Keeper of the Underworld is a ripoff of the Dark One, then the Dark One is a ripoff of Sauron.  If the Sisters of the Light are a ripoff of the Aes Sedai, then the Aes Sedai are a ripoff of Wicca.  Most of these things are very, very old concepts that were around long before Robert Jordan.That being said, I had a bit of trouble with the Rada'Han and the a'dam myself.  It seemed a bit too specific.  A bit too similar.  Especially considering the similarity between the way Richard was treated wearing the Rada'Han, and the way Egwene was treated wearing an a'dam.Even so, these are all incidentals, and not, IMO, justification enough to actually list Robert Jordan as a co-author. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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