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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3582210" data-attributes="member: 18701">Thanks guys. The player is also new to the Swordsage class so we're both just seeing how it works in the campaign. From what I've researched, the class overall sounds pretty balanced.He also wasn't trying to "get away" with having the +5 skill items. I see now that he was twinking/powergaming by asking for the items, but I mean, who wouldn't want that? I just didn't understand the benefits the items gave a Swordsage. I assumed he just wanted to be better at jumping, needed to concentrate the way a caster does (I didn't read the rules thoroughly at the time), and I didn't think about jump & concentration being class skills. So when he said, "roll concentration check instead of will save" I was thinking he'd have a +2 difference (with the magic items)....definitely not a +10 difference.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> I blame myself...live & learn. I've realized that I should have been a core DM only. I just don't have the amount of time to bone-up on sourcebooks like my players do. So I'm not aware of what I'll be dealing with in game until it presents itself. That's not a good way to introduce sourcebook material to a campaign  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />BTW, what would be a good item worth between 5k-6k that I could give for a Swordsage that won't make me regret it?</blockquote>

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