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<blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 4767992" data-attributes="member: 19083"><p>As note previously, I got rid of a ton of old stuff ot Ebay, through my cousin...I felt violated getting rid of it all...cry...you may get some of it, lol</p><p>But I kept Undermountain as it's so damn good you should love it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>(and any Dark SUn/Spelljammer items and some precious bits)</p><p>Undermountain is one of the few dungeon crawls I like as a DM..cause it's a <em>setting </em>more than a <em>crawl</em></p><p></p><p>City State of Tyr is good in laying out the city, but I stick to keeping the Sorceror Kings alive. The Add ons for Dark Sun are good, IMHO, Dune Trader though is my fave.</p><p>However the level and stats for NPCs in most of the dark sun stuff is garbage!! it's ATHAS not "Bognor Regis", roflmao!! </p><p>so their highest stat is a 15 or 16...they are level 8 AND the fluff is telling me they are some hard ass? Eh? not likely is it! </p><p>So the NPC stats are often way out of whack.</p><p>I've always seen it that Athasian characters are very damned otugh and levelled, by sheer necessity of survival and experience...though as always, for NPCs, that can mean super saavy trader who's useless in a fight...but his guards aren't!</p><p>that's the advantage of 3rd and 4th ed, you can have such folk with high skills, and it's those skills that let them be dangerous, rather than combat ability.</p><p></p><p>And hell yes they had to run, lol. Cilops (psionic tracking centipede beasties) and rangers were the <em>least </em>of their worries! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>Athas is about <em>survival of the least dumbest</em>, and I severely punish stupidity there hehe <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverblade The Ench, post: 4767992, member: 19083"] As note previously, I got rid of a ton of old stuff ot Ebay, through my cousin...I felt violated getting rid of it all...cry...you may get some of it, lol But I kept Undermountain as it's so damn good you should love it ;) (and any Dark SUn/Spelljammer items and some precious bits) Undermountain is one of the few dungeon crawls I like as a DM..cause it's a [I]setting [/I]more than a [I]crawl[/I] City State of Tyr is good in laying out the city, but I stick to keeping the Sorceror Kings alive. The Add ons for Dark Sun are good, IMHO, Dune Trader though is my fave. However the level and stats for NPCs in most of the dark sun stuff is garbage!! it's ATHAS not "Bognor Regis", roflmao!! so their highest stat is a 15 or 16...they are level 8 AND the fluff is telling me they are some hard ass? Eh? not likely is it! So the NPC stats are often way out of whack. I've always seen it that Athasian characters are very damned otugh and levelled, by sheer necessity of survival and experience...though as always, for NPCs, that can mean super saavy trader who's useless in a fight...but his guards aren't! that's the advantage of 3rd and 4th ed, you can have such folk with high skills, and it's those skills that let them be dangerous, rather than combat ability. And hell yes they had to run, lol. Cilops (psionic tracking centipede beasties) and rangers were the [I]least [/I]of their worries! ;) Athas is about [I]survival of the least dumbest[/I], and I severely punish stupidity there hehe :p [/QUOTE]
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