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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 2085060" data-attributes="member: 94"><p>That's the case, but I say that with a caveat:</p><p></p><p>I would want to run the Tarrasque through the Creature Creator to see if its CR was actually 21. </p><p></p><p>WOTC has a bad habit of "under-reporting" the CR of creatures that they think should seem "tough." (Dragons are the most notable example.)</p><p></p><p>With the Tarrasque, there's also the small matter that its major vulnerability is "hard coded" to a set level. If the PCs don't have <em>wish</em> or <em>miracle</em> specifically, that's a problem. The problem with that kind of "hard coding" means that <em>no amount of opponents</em> could defeat the tarrasque if they are not prepped with either of those spells.</p><p></p><p>So to answer your question:</p><p></p><p>Can eight 15th level PCs handle a CR21 creature? YES.</p><p></p><p>Can eight 15th level PCs necessarily handle a specific CR21 creature you have in mind? Not necessarily.</p><p></p><p>But that's true of any group of PCs at any CR. Sometimes you're not equipped to deal with the critter, no matter what its CR says.</p><p></p><p>(Personally, I believe a 15th level wizard, alone and with foreknowledge of what he's facing, would have little trouble "nullifying" the Tarrasque. It doesn't fly, after all. Of course, most of my own strategies would involve being swallowed whole first... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wulf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 2085060, member: 94"] That's the case, but I say that with a caveat: I would want to run the Tarrasque through the Creature Creator to see if its CR was actually 21. WOTC has a bad habit of "under-reporting" the CR of creatures that they think should seem "tough." (Dragons are the most notable example.) With the Tarrasque, there's also the small matter that its major vulnerability is "hard coded" to a set level. If the PCs don't have [i]wish[/i] or [i]miracle[/i] specifically, that's a problem. The problem with that kind of "hard coding" means that [i]no amount of opponents[/i] could defeat the tarrasque if they are not prepped with either of those spells. So to answer your question: Can eight 15th level PCs handle a CR21 creature? YES. Can eight 15th level PCs necessarily handle a specific CR21 creature you have in mind? Not necessarily. But that's true of any group of PCs at any CR. Sometimes you're not equipped to deal with the critter, no matter what its CR says. (Personally, I believe a 15th level wizard, alone and with foreknowledge of what he's facing, would have little trouble "nullifying" the Tarrasque. It doesn't fly, after all. Of course, most of my own strategies would involve being swallowed whole first... ;)) Wulf [/QUOTE]
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