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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 2053378" data-attributes="member: 545">In a nutshell, Druids are &quot;overpowered&quot; the same way Clerics are &quot;overpowered&quot; -- a lot of pretty good abilities and no obvious weaknesses.I would also say they are by far the most versatile class, even more so than the Rogue.I am rather skeptical of these &quot;proofs&quot; the Druid is so powerful they always involve very high level Druids.&nbsp; Smackdowns do not reveal how a class actually plays out.&nbsp; A Wildshaped 6th level Druid in Black Bear form is approximately as effective in combat as your typical War Cleric.&nbsp; Whoop-de-do.&nbsp; :\&nbsp;&nbsp; The Brown Bear form is not good at 8th level.&nbsp; As for Animal Growth, a mid-high level Druid who wanders into melee without a good buff or two on him has a death wish.&nbsp; How long will that unbuffed 9th level Druid in Brown Bear form live standing next to, say, a Fire Giant?&nbsp; Not even one full attack.I am playing a low level Druid and I find my best offensive spell is Bull's Strength -- that spell many people do not even use anymore.&nbsp; Produce Flame is actually quite good and pretty much makes up for my completely pathetic weapon options.&nbsp; Yes, I envy all those nice armaments the Cleric has at his disposal.The summoning spells are very nice if you have Augment Summoning, but they are not easy to use because of short durations and long casting times.&nbsp; Outside the forest the Druid spell list is vastly weaker than the Cleric's or Wizards.&nbsp; The Druid does not have those simple spells with the staying power as you climb up the levels.&nbsp; Spells like Magic Missile, Bless, Protection from Evil, Sound Burst, Hold Person, Web.&nbsp; Produce Flame is a superb spell when you are 4th level, but it is a weak spell when you are 10th level, especially compared to Magic Missile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 2053378, member: 545"] In a nutshell, Druids are "overpowered" the same way Clerics are "overpowered" -- a lot of pretty good abilities and no obvious weaknesses. I would also say they are by far the most versatile class, even more so than the Rogue. I am rather skeptical of these "proofs" the Druid is so powerful they always involve very high level Druids. Smackdowns do not reveal how a class actually plays out. A Wildshaped 6th level Druid in Black Bear form is approximately as effective in combat as your typical War Cleric. Whoop-de-do. :\ The Brown Bear form is not good at 8th level. As for Animal Growth, a mid-high level Druid who wanders into melee [i]without[/i] a good buff or two on him has a death wish. How long will that unbuffed 9th level Druid in Brown Bear form live standing next to, say, a Fire Giant? Not even one full attack. I am playing a low level Druid and I find my best offensive spell is Bull's Strength -- that spell many people do not even use anymore. Produce Flame is actually quite good and pretty much makes up for my completely pathetic weapon options. Yes, I envy all those nice armaments the Cleric has at his disposal. The summoning spells are very nice if you have Augment Summoning, but they are not easy to use because of short durations and long casting times. Outside the forest the Druid spell list is vastly weaker than the Cleric's or Wizards. The Druid does not have those simple spells with the staying power as you climb up the levels. Spells like Magic Missile, Bless, Protection from Evil, Sound Burst, Hold Person, Web. Produce Flame is a superb spell when you are 4th level, but it is a weak spell when you are 10th level, especially compared to Magic Missile. [/QUOTE]

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