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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 2055450" data-attributes="member: 545">But the Druid wildshaped is such a...big...rock!&nbsp;<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> The thought experiment is a simple level equivalent encounter that should carry almost no real risk and you can spank three different ways.&nbsp; Just pointing out that without that buffing, the Druid can easily get himself into deep trouble.&nbsp; Wildshaping alone still leaves the Druid light years behind a similar level Fighter.Obviously I would try to use the right tactics for the right situation.&nbsp; But it is not going to work easily or without risks.&nbsp; An appropriate level NPC spellcaster has ways of dealing with grapple.&nbsp; And even run-of-the-mill NPC Fighters should be able to comfortably match up against a Dire Bear or two without trouble.&nbsp; If you use Improved Grab on the wrong target (he has Close Quarter Fighting) that could be 15-20 HPs you will deeply regret losing....In conclusion, the buffing up of the wildshaped Druid is not some luxury for the powergamer.&nbsp; It is a necessity so the Druid can actually use wildshaping in melee.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 2055450, member: 545"] But the Druid wildshaped is such a...[i]big[/i]...rock! ;) The thought experiment is a simple level equivalent encounter that [i]should[/i] carry almost no real risk and you can spank three different ways. Just pointing out that without that buffing, the Druid can easily get himself into deep trouble. Wildshaping alone still leaves the Druid light years behind a similar level Fighter. Obviously I would try to use the right tactics for the right situation. But it is not going to work easily or without risks. An appropriate level NPC spellcaster has ways of dealing with grapple. And even run-of-the-mill NPC Fighters should be able to comfortably match up against a Dire Bear or two without trouble. If you use Improved Grab on the wrong target (he has Close Quarter Fighting) that could be 15-20 HPs you will deeply regret losing.... In conclusion, the buffing up of the wildshaped Druid is not some luxury for the powergamer. It is a necessity so the Druid can actually use wildshaping in melee. [/QUOTE]

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