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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 2060799" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>Right, but again, that shows that summoning isn't an uber tactic for a cleric. The druid using this tactic would have a 99.6% chance of initiating a grapple against the target in question, and at least one of those grapple attempts would almost certainly succeed.</p><p> </p><p>Even so, I think that summoning dire bears isn't the uber tactic for a druid. The uber tactic for a druid is turning into a dire ape and casting animal growth on herself and her animal companion (and maybe some summoned creatures), with a DM who's generous about the rules for equipment melding. </p><p> </p><p>A generous DM will allow armor, headgear, rings, amulets, clothing, and weaponry to survive the wildshaping, and we'll therefore be dealing with a creature with 15' reach (I think), the ability to rend, a respectable armor class, DR10/magic, a jaw-dropping strength, and whatever tchotchkes the druid has, all for the use of one spell. (I'll assume that a druid using this uber tactic has the natural spell feat and goes around in ape-form). </p><p> </p><p>I'd put that druid up against any other melee class of the same level. Heck, I'd even disallow the use of any other druid traits and allow the use of unlimited traits from the other class: let the barbarian rage; let the fighter use all his feats; let the ranger dual-wield and cast her entire regimen of spells. The druid will win the day, I'm guessing.</p><p> </p><p>That's why (among other reasons) I don't think wildshaping should change the creature type.</p><p> </p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 2060799, member: 259"] Right, but again, that shows that summoning isn't an uber tactic for a cleric. The druid using this tactic would have a 99.6% chance of initiating a grapple against the target in question, and at least one of those grapple attempts would almost certainly succeed. Even so, I think that summoning dire bears isn't the uber tactic for a druid. The uber tactic for a druid is turning into a dire ape and casting animal growth on herself and her animal companion (and maybe some summoned creatures), with a DM who's generous about the rules for equipment melding. A generous DM will allow armor, headgear, rings, amulets, clothing, and weaponry to survive the wildshaping, and we'll therefore be dealing with a creature with 15' reach (I think), the ability to rend, a respectable armor class, DR10/magic, a jaw-dropping strength, and whatever tchotchkes the druid has, all for the use of one spell. (I'll assume that a druid using this uber tactic has the natural spell feat and goes around in ape-form). I'd put that druid up against any other melee class of the same level. Heck, I'd even disallow the use of any other druid traits and allow the use of unlimited traits from the other class: let the barbarian rage; let the fighter use all his feats; let the ranger dual-wield and cast her entire regimen of spells. The druid will win the day, I'm guessing. That's why (among other reasons) I don't think wildshaping should change the creature type. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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