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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2964414" data-attributes="member: 22779">I didn't answer because you changed the situation.&nbsp; I made the point that playing in Oriental Adventures means that you may be playing a character who should kill himself if he fails.&nbsp; That you choose to ignore that is up to you, but, now we're into player fiat.As far as the captain, you again changed the situation.&nbsp; I asked if it was ok for the captain of the ship to order the players to do something.&nbsp; NOT that the captain absolutely had to force them.&nbsp; If you would like to discuss what I actually said instead of reinventing the question, we can work with that.However, since I agree with most of what you say, then I don't know why you're jumping up and down.&nbsp; Yes, if the DM is rigging the game, that's railroading.&nbsp; No one has ever denied that.However, I do disagree that just because a player perceives that he has been railroaded that it means that he has.&nbsp; Since the player is coming from imperfect information, his perceptions could be entirely false.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 2964414, member: 22779"] I didn't answer because you changed the situation. I made the point that playing in Oriental Adventures means that you may be playing a character who should kill himself if he fails. That you choose to ignore that is up to you, but, now we're into player fiat. As far as the captain, you again changed the situation. I asked if it was ok for the captain of the ship to order the players to do something. NOT that the captain absolutely had to force them. If you would like to discuss what I actually said instead of reinventing the question, we can work with that. However, since I agree with most of what you say, then I don't know why you're jumping up and down. Yes, if the DM is rigging the game, that's railroading. No one has ever denied that. However, I do disagree that just because a player perceives that he has been railroaded that it means that he has. Since the player is coming from imperfect information, his perceptions could be entirely false. [/QUOTE]

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