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<blockquote data-quote="Ancalagon" data-source="post: 7195466" data-attributes="member: 23">I concur with you that the bonus action is really a side issue.&nbsp; Of course, in many cases GWM still gives us more damage (the feat is NOT useless!), so more attacks = more benefits but I think that looking at it &quot;per attack&quot; is the best way to study it.&nbsp; I didn't mention that, but exactly!&nbsp; The +10 damage of GWM is also not multiplied by crits.I also did&nbsp; *not* calculate in the damage of the Great Weapon fighting style and rather had a 7 for the average damage.&nbsp; However, if I had done so it would have made GWM look even worse!&nbsp;&nbsp; As a general rule, high &quot;base&quot; damage make GWM worse because the - 5 to hit penalty applies to it.&nbsp;&nbsp; So if you have a flaming weapon (+2d6 damage) or sneak attack damage etc, GWM is less beneficial.However, if you have a + to damage and to hit (like high stats, a +2 magical axe etc), this improves GWM.&nbsp; Ironically, this also hurts the feat because to get the feat you are often sacrificing an ASI.&nbsp; &nbsp; Initially I made GWM Rodrigo with two feats, not one, and he only had 16 strength, and that made the numbers even worse!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ancalagon, post: 7195466, member: 23"] I concur with you that the bonus action is really a side issue. Of course, in many cases GWM still gives us more damage (the feat is NOT useless!), so more attacks = more benefits but I think that looking at it "per attack" is the best way to study it. I didn't mention that, but exactly! The +10 damage of GWM is also not multiplied by crits. I also did *not* calculate in the damage of the Great Weapon fighting style and rather had a 7 for the average damage. However, if I had done so it would have made GWM look even worse! As a general rule, high "base" damage make GWM worse because the - 5 to hit penalty applies to it. So if you have a flaming weapon (+2d6 damage) or sneak attack damage etc, GWM is less beneficial. However, if you have a + to damage and to hit (like high stats, a +2 magical axe etc), this improves GWM. Ironically, this also hurts the feat because to get the feat you are often sacrificing an ASI. Initially I made GWM Rodrigo with two feats, not one, and he only had 16 strength, and that made the numbers even worse! [/QUOTE]

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