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<blockquote data-quote="Gregor" data-source="post: 1138720" data-attributes="member: 11751"><p><strong>Spoilers</strong></p><p></p><p>Hey all,</p><p></p><p>I beat the game rather quickly with a party of 6th level. I apparently took the express route to the end. My only complaint was that I dont really know what the heck I did or where I was going. I played as a chaotic good party and frankly, I lost track of where the elven nobles were. I found that the party's motivation or even "leads" were poor at best. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>******SPOILER******SPOILER********SPOILER*******</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My party was asked to locate an "elf friend" named Black Jay. This guy tells me to check out the Moat House, which I do. I clean it out and meet the head honcho down there. I kill him off and only learn that he is associated with a faction inside the temple - Lolth worshipping scum!. Ok. So I go back to this Black Jay guy and tell him that the nobles were not in the Moathouse. So he gives me some weak lead by saying "I dont want to think the worst but we never cleaned out the lower levels of the temple, maybe you can find something down there." Ummmm ok....but...why? So off I go, cleaning out different levels, finding out about the power struggle, bumping off head-clerics. I dont hear anything about the people I am supposed to find. I meet some wizard who tells me he has been scrying me and that he is going to destroy me....so I bump him off. I find some bone helm that is supposed to unlock some demon who I have yet to hear of and I am instructed to locate a number of objects to destroy the helm with. Ok, so back into the temple I go, I start to look around and I get caught up with some other Cleric who I think I am inflitrating and then I get escorted into some inner temple. The Uber boss asks me to perform a service for him (I assumed I was still infiltrating the temple), I accept and then the game ends. All in all, I didnt know what the hell was going on!</p><p></p><p>Now, I think the game is amazing and I love the graphics, the combat, the customization etc. However, I found there to be a major lack of motivation and flow of information to my party. I understand I did a number of random and sometimes alignment conflicting things in the game, but even so, I felt lost and confused the whole time. Is this the point? (I probably just answered my own question). I am glad the game is not linear and that I had the opportunity to take 90 different paths, but some structure is needed. Maybe its just me....</p><p></p><p>I am now playing the game as a CE party and I find that the party motivation is a little clearer and there is a coherent string of bad guys and groups who are associated with eachother. I am enjoying the game alot more now.</p><p></p><p>I think alot of this post may make absolutely no sense so just ignore the obvious displays of idiocy - I barely slept last night so my brain is melting. All in all the game is great but I am just wondering if anyone else has issues with motivation / flow of information. Oh and the guy who does the voice for Burne really annoys me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> BUT the Gelatinous Cubes look so cool!</p><p></p><p>Cheers,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gregor, post: 1138720, member: 11751"] [b]Spoilers[/b] Hey all, I beat the game rather quickly with a party of 6th level. I apparently took the express route to the end. My only complaint was that I dont really know what the heck I did or where I was going. I played as a chaotic good party and frankly, I lost track of where the elven nobles were. I found that the party's motivation or even "leads" were poor at best. ******SPOILER******SPOILER********SPOILER******* My party was asked to locate an "elf friend" named Black Jay. This guy tells me to check out the Moat House, which I do. I clean it out and meet the head honcho down there. I kill him off and only learn that he is associated with a faction inside the temple - Lolth worshipping scum!. Ok. So I go back to this Black Jay guy and tell him that the nobles were not in the Moathouse. So he gives me some weak lead by saying "I dont want to think the worst but we never cleaned out the lower levels of the temple, maybe you can find something down there." Ummmm ok....but...why? So off I go, cleaning out different levels, finding out about the power struggle, bumping off head-clerics. I dont hear anything about the people I am supposed to find. I meet some wizard who tells me he has been scrying me and that he is going to destroy me....so I bump him off. I find some bone helm that is supposed to unlock some demon who I have yet to hear of and I am instructed to locate a number of objects to destroy the helm with. Ok, so back into the temple I go, I start to look around and I get caught up with some other Cleric who I think I am inflitrating and then I get escorted into some inner temple. The Uber boss asks me to perform a service for him (I assumed I was still infiltrating the temple), I accept and then the game ends. All in all, I didnt know what the hell was going on! Now, I think the game is amazing and I love the graphics, the combat, the customization etc. However, I found there to be a major lack of motivation and flow of information to my party. I understand I did a number of random and sometimes alignment conflicting things in the game, but even so, I felt lost and confused the whole time. Is this the point? (I probably just answered my own question). I am glad the game is not linear and that I had the opportunity to take 90 different paths, but some structure is needed. Maybe its just me.... I am now playing the game as a CE party and I find that the party motivation is a little clearer and there is a coherent string of bad guys and groups who are associated with eachother. I am enjoying the game alot more now. I think alot of this post may make absolutely no sense so just ignore the obvious displays of idiocy - I barely slept last night so my brain is melting. All in all the game is great but I am just wondering if anyone else has issues with motivation / flow of information. Oh and the guy who does the voice for Burne really annoys me :) BUT the Gelatinous Cubes look so cool! Cheers, [/QUOTE]
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