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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grodog" data-source="post: 5177043" data-attributes="member: 1613">[reposted from a recent and digressive discussion about EGG's <a href="http://knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6909" target="_blank">Necropolis</a>, on K&K]:I haven't sat down and looked at ToEE in decades, much with more-matured mega-dungeon savvy eyes. A number of things disappointed me about ToEE, including:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">it was too self-contained: T1 suggests that the cult of EE may have started in a number of places, which suggested to me that it was a relatively-decentralized cult and that cells existed in Dyvers, the Wild Coast, and elsewhere within the overall region; T1 hints at the bandits/traders raiding far and wide, and an influx of humanoids into Lareth's service, etc., none of which is reflected in the sequel</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nulb is clearly an afterthought in the design process, or it was completely winged in the games, since there's no meat to it at all</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the machinations of the various cults of EE are fine, but relatively flat and there's not much provided to help a DM really set things in motion (compared to say, the political dynamics provided in WW's Chicago by Night supplement, which provided good baseline details and relationships, goals, short-term actions and longer-term plans, etc. among the highly-competitive vampires of Chicago)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the dungeons are too much of the same thing: if you compare the types of encounters in G1's dungeon level to those in ToEE, there's a disturbing sameness to most of the dungeon levels that makes them too repetitive in play</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the hints about the wider GH background/impact of the module are again sketched, but not really capitalized upon (the freeing vs. slaying of Thrommel; the destruction of the Temple; the relationships between Iuz, Zuggtmoy, and Lolth)</li> </ul>This is, again, all based on memory. I wonder how I'd feel about the ToEE if I read it again in detail now?</blockquote>

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