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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2001025" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Except that Energy Resistance does not work that way. Two Protection From Energy Fire spells on you are just as weakly defined as two temporary hit point spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that this is a reasonable house rule (not quite according to pages 171 to 172). Multiple Vigors works similar to this (with respect to itself). Except, Vigor does not replace the lower total with the higher total, it just replaces the earlier total with the new total (and assumes the Psion would not purposely replace a higher total with a lower total, but this could happen, say in the case of Personality Parasite)</p><p></p><p>Hence, doing it "just like Vigor" would allow an opponent to replace the 50 point Vigor with a 4 point Aid (as an attack).</p><p></p><p>Your suggestion (using the greater total) is more reasonable than how Vigor is actually written.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, my "interpretation" is basically in there, it just is an annoying interpretation and hence, people will deny it's veracity, merely because it is so different than other spell rules and due to the fact that it illustrates how poorly RAW works in this case. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>You are suggesting an Overlapping rule and trying to twist the Irrelevant rule into that. However, irrelevant spells do not get dispelled (the flaw in your interpretation <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) and that is effectively what you are suggesting. So if you make it "irrelevant" as per your definition of irrelevant, the temporary hit points of the one spell should wouldn't come back once the duration of the more powerful spell goes away, but they should because irrelevant does not mean dispelled (although, this wouldn't work in all cases anyway because the weaker spell might go away first).</p><p></p><p></p><p>And you really had to twist it to get it there. I like the amount of mental gymnastics you used to get there. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2001025, member: 2011"] Except that Energy Resistance does not work that way. Two Protection From Energy Fire spells on you are just as weakly defined as two temporary hit point spells. I agree that this is a reasonable house rule (not quite according to pages 171 to 172). Multiple Vigors works similar to this (with respect to itself). Except, Vigor does not replace the lower total with the higher total, it just replaces the earlier total with the new total (and assumes the Psion would not purposely replace a higher total with a lower total, but this could happen, say in the case of Personality Parasite) Hence, doing it "just like Vigor" would allow an opponent to replace the 50 point Vigor with a 4 point Aid (as an attack). Your suggestion (using the greater total) is more reasonable than how Vigor is actually written. Actually, my "interpretation" is basically in there, it just is an annoying interpretation and hence, people will deny it's veracity, merely because it is so different than other spell rules and due to the fact that it illustrates how poorly RAW works in this case. :lol: You are suggesting an Overlapping rule and trying to twist the Irrelevant rule into that. However, irrelevant spells do not get dispelled (the flaw in your interpretation ;) ) and that is effectively what you are suggesting. So if you make it "irrelevant" as per your definition of irrelevant, the temporary hit points of the one spell should wouldn't come back once the duration of the more powerful spell goes away, but they should because irrelevant does not mean dispelled (although, this wouldn't work in all cases anyway because the weaker spell might go away first). And you really had to twist it to get it there. I like the amount of mental gymnastics you used to get there. ;) [/QUOTE]
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