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<blockquote data-quote="unan oranis" data-source="post: 4402409" data-attributes="member: 65462">Me too, though the ritual specifically states that the disc will drop if the ground gives way below it, so theres lots of room to rule it sinks.It seems logical and more or less universally accepted that a person could stand on the disc.According to its description, it really sounds like you could pile a lot of people on.&nbsp; At least four, though more than one would deffinatly cause combat disadvantages.Hard ones, for sure.&nbsp; If it doesn't push down on the surface below it at all, water and snow should be passable.&nbsp; On the other hand if the disc can fall, it should be able to slide as a sled.You'd have to call it for maximum incline, but anything you could do with up to a 10 in climb seems reasonable in my opinion.I'm not sure if there is a specific rule about maximum number of rituals, but there is a precedent for maximum number of prestidigitations going at once (3).I personally would say one wizard, one disc.Well the basics of the issue are this:MESSING AROUND WITH TENSURES FLOATING DISCCons:&nbsp; Bodies of water as an engaging obstacle eliminated;&nbsp; potentially horse drawn or greater speeds if creativly used - again eliminating some engaging obstacles;&nbsp; &quot;cheap&quot; or &quot;boring&quot; pass through certain traps.Pros:&nbsp; Creativity on part of player. feeling of &quot;beating the system&quot; or &quot;magic&quot;, fun and exciting.I think if you see these coming, and just amend tensures floating disc to be capable of some of the tricks at higher level (2-4), you'll end up with wizards who get to game the system harmlessly for a bit and then you'll be into paragon where it won't matter as much anyway.Just my opinion - actually I take that back.&nbsp; &quot;Say yes&quot; is written in the dmg somewhere so I'm totally right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="unan oranis, post: 4402409, member: 65462"] Me too, though the ritual specifically states that the disc will drop if the ground gives way below it, so theres lots of room to rule it sinks. It seems logical and more or less universally accepted that a person could stand on the disc. According to its description, it really sounds like you could pile a lot of people on. At least four, though more than one would deffinatly cause combat disadvantages. Hard ones, for sure. If it doesn't push down on the surface below it at all, water and snow should be passable. On the other hand if the disc can fall, it should be able to slide as a sled. You'd have to call it for maximum incline, but anything you could do with up to a 10 in climb seems reasonable in my opinion. I'm not sure if there is a specific rule about maximum number of rituals, but there is a precedent for maximum number of prestidigitations going at once (3). I personally would say one wizard, one disc. Well the basics of the issue are this: MESSING AROUND WITH TENSURES FLOATING DISC Cons: Bodies of water as an engaging obstacle eliminated; potentially horse drawn or greater speeds if creativly used - again eliminating some engaging obstacles; "cheap" or "boring" pass through certain traps. Pros: Creativity on part of player. feeling of "beating the system" or "magic", fun and exciting. I think if you see these coming, and just amend tensures floating disc to be capable of some of the tricks at higher level (2-4), you'll end up with wizards who get to game the system harmlessly for a bit and then you'll be into paragon where it won't matter as much anyway. Just my opinion - actually I take that back. "Say yes" is written in the dmg somewhere so I'm totally right. [/QUOTE]

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