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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 1000825" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p><strong>Re: Problems with T3</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you want to see a Terminator timeline that is <em>actually</em> great, go check out Talien's <em>Terminator: Future Fate</em> d20 Modern game. It's free for download from his website: <a href="http://members.toast.net/talien/michael/indexfreebies.html" target="_blank">http://members.toast.net/talien/michael/indexfreebies.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, they never once suggested pretty much any of that. We're told, flat-out, by Arnold's character that the "virus" is SkyNet infiltrating pretty much everything in preparation for it's takeover. There isn't actually any real virus, that's just what everyone thinks it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, neither.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"Convenient encounters" are another way of saying "destiny". Those things happened because they were meant to happen. You ackowledged that yourself above, so why are you complaining about it now?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is understandable, given that he's just been living as a drifter.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because its hard to acquire more without breaking and entering to get some anyway, which is what we see him doing, so where's the problem?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, destiny.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, that last point is wrong; General Brewster gives them knowledge of SkyNet, but he has nothing to do with helping them survive. Likewise, that fact that she knew John and recognized him don't seem so far-fetched. That she's destined to marry him and be a kick-ass soldier herself doesn't seem so bad either, since its something she will do, not has done. Anyone who survives that future has to be a soldier.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Too early? Kathrine Brewster is a vet at an emergency animal clinic, and she's on the T-X's hit list...so the T-X checks there when she's near that area. Seems plausible to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So instead, she should have ignored the odd patch of blood on the floor? And likewise, the fact that this is a supercomputer android that can think, and must properly ID targets to kill them, makes it veyr conceivable that she has a DNA testing program. And if you think DNA testing can't make a positive ID...well, that's something we've had for years now, you know.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't drop "probably's". They're just ways of saying you don't know but think you're right anyway. She was the daughter of a high-ranking military general - is it inconceivable that she's maybe a bit familiar with weapons? </p><p></p><p>Likewise, John not taking part in the action was because A) doing so would have been suicidal most of the time, and B) the point was that he was struggling to escape his destiny. He didn't fight because he didn't want to fight...he didn't want any of that to happen.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm assuming you mean Arnold's character. The need for changing cars was relatively minimal, since it just had to keep him alive for a few hours, and against human authorities it could do that just fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Most directors do want scenes to easily flow into one another. I don't see why that upsets you here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because of course, when John and Kathrine themselves had no idea where they were going, nor did anyone else save Arnold's character, the T-X should have been able to guess that anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You must have been having conniptions when the T-1000 in T2 actually waited at John Conner's house in the guise of his foster mother to try and find him. </p><p></p><p>Likewise, there is a reason why the Terminators of Arnold's type and up are the Infiltrator series. Because they infiltrate, they use deception to blend in among humans and find their targets.</p><p></p><p>Also, you say the T-X didn't take charge? Like all those times when she just killed people who stood in her way? You don't seem to be making sense here in what upsets you so much.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>She does run that fast the whole movie (not to mention she cut straight through the woods), its just that other times, things like a crashing helicopter or a magnetic particle accelerator just put a damper on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 1000825, member: 8461"] [b]Re: Problems with T3[/b] If you want to see a Terminator timeline that is [I]actually[/I] great, go check out Talien's [I]Terminator: Future Fate[/I] d20 Modern game. It's free for download from his website: [url]http://members.toast.net/talien/michael/indexfreebies.html[/url] Actually, they never once suggested pretty much any of that. We're told, flat-out, by Arnold's character that the "virus" is SkyNet infiltrating pretty much everything in preparation for it's takeover. There isn't actually any real virus, that's just what everyone thinks it is. Nope, neither. "Convenient encounters" are another way of saying "destiny". Those things happened because they were meant to happen. You ackowledged that yourself above, so why are you complaining about it now? Which is understandable, given that he's just been living as a drifter. Because its hard to acquire more without breaking and entering to get some anyway, which is what we see him doing, so where's the problem? Again, destiny. Actually, that last point is wrong; General Brewster gives them knowledge of SkyNet, but he has nothing to do with helping them survive. Likewise, that fact that she knew John and recognized him don't seem so far-fetched. That she's destined to marry him and be a kick-ass soldier herself doesn't seem so bad either, since its something she will do, not has done. Anyone who survives that future has to be a soldier. Too early? Kathrine Brewster is a vet at an emergency animal clinic, and she's on the T-X's hit list...so the T-X checks there when she's near that area. Seems plausible to me. So instead, she should have ignored the odd patch of blood on the floor? And likewise, the fact that this is a supercomputer android that can think, and must properly ID targets to kill them, makes it veyr conceivable that she has a DNA testing program. And if you think DNA testing can't make a positive ID...well, that's something we've had for years now, you know. Don't drop "probably's". They're just ways of saying you don't know but think you're right anyway. She was the daughter of a high-ranking military general - is it inconceivable that she's maybe a bit familiar with weapons? Likewise, John not taking part in the action was because A) doing so would have been suicidal most of the time, and B) the point was that he was struggling to escape his destiny. He didn't fight because he didn't want to fight...he didn't want any of that to happen. I'm assuming you mean Arnold's character. The need for changing cars was relatively minimal, since it just had to keep him alive for a few hours, and against human authorities it could do that just fine. Most directors do want scenes to easily flow into one another. I don't see why that upsets you here. Because of course, when John and Kathrine themselves had no idea where they were going, nor did anyone else save Arnold's character, the T-X should have been able to guess that anyway. You must have been having conniptions when the T-1000 in T2 actually waited at John Conner's house in the guise of his foster mother to try and find him. Likewise, there is a reason why the Terminators of Arnold's type and up are the Infiltrator series. Because they infiltrate, they use deception to blend in among humans and find their targets. Also, you say the T-X didn't take charge? Like all those times when she just killed people who stood in her way? You don't seem to be making sense here in what upsets you so much. She does run that fast the whole movie (not to mention she cut straight through the woods), its just that other times, things like a crashing helicopter or a magnetic particle accelerator just put a damper on that. [/QUOTE]
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