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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 988342" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem with that though is that the nature of a temporal paradox is that, in this case, its an infinite time loop. While there (theoretically) is a timeline that was replaced, it was ALWAYS going to be that Kyle Reese went back in time to sleep with Sarah Conner. The nature of time travel in this regard means that there, practically speaking, never was a first timeline for the one from T1 to replace.</p><p></p><p>That's the nature of temporal paradoxes - they can't be resolved (at least not with linear thought).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It did, and in an interesting manner. While it holds that you can change the future, the best you'll be able to do is postpone events from happening. They'll still happen - history is self-correcting along a single course.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That part irked me. That's obviously a mistake by the producers more than anything else. The extended version of the T2 DVD shows, when Arnold boots up after having his switch toggled to "Read and Write" that he is a Series 800 Model 101 Terminator; a T-800. I understood from somewhere that the 101 refers to the type of skin covering he has (so 102 could be, say, the Stalone covering we saw in <em>Last Action Hero</em>).</p><p></p><p>However, it is possible to resolve that discrepancy by saying that Skynet from the altered timeline built newer models of Terminators faster. The war still ends in 2029 (though pockets of fighting seem to remain, since John Conner is killed by a Terminator in 2032), but it has lost six years of time to begin with, since Judgement Day was delayed, so maybe the other timeline's T-800 series were produced earlier here, early enough to just be T-101's.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That was probably it. The age thing is the most problematic of the series. Another (albeit somewhat minor) discrepnacy is the following:</p><p></p><p>If Kyle Reese met Sarah Conner in 1984 (which he did), and John Conner was 10 when T2 happened in 1994 (which it did), then Kyle Reese and Sarah had to have met in early 1984, given a 9-month pregnancy.</p><p></p><p>Now, considering that John Conner was 10 when they took out Cyberdyne, that means that had to have happened after his tenth birthday, meaning it was during the last few months of 1994 (October through December).</p><p></p><p>Given that, there were <strong>less</strong> than three years between the events of T2 and Sarah Conner's death, since she died in August 1997 anyway (since August 29th was Judgement Day, she died only a day or two after that). That means that John Conner was slightly off when he said she "fought for three years" against her leukemia.</p><p></p><p>Of course, he could have just been rounding. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 988342, member: 8461"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion[/b] The problem with that though is that the nature of a temporal paradox is that, in this case, its an infinite time loop. While there (theoretically) is a timeline that was replaced, it was ALWAYS going to be that Kyle Reese went back in time to sleep with Sarah Conner. The nature of time travel in this regard means that there, practically speaking, never was a first timeline for the one from T1 to replace. That's the nature of temporal paradoxes - they can't be resolved (at least not with linear thought). It did, and in an interesting manner. While it holds that you can change the future, the best you'll be able to do is postpone events from happening. They'll still happen - history is self-correcting along a single course. That part irked me. That's obviously a mistake by the producers more than anything else. The extended version of the T2 DVD shows, when Arnold boots up after having his switch toggled to "Read and Write" that he is a Series 800 Model 101 Terminator; a T-800. I understood from somewhere that the 101 refers to the type of skin covering he has (so 102 could be, say, the Stalone covering we saw in [I]Last Action Hero[/I]). However, it is possible to resolve that discrepancy by saying that Skynet from the altered timeline built newer models of Terminators faster. The war still ends in 2029 (though pockets of fighting seem to remain, since John Conner is killed by a Terminator in 2032), but it has lost six years of time to begin with, since Judgement Day was delayed, so maybe the other timeline's T-800 series were produced earlier here, early enough to just be T-101's. That was probably it. The age thing is the most problematic of the series. Another (albeit somewhat minor) discrepnacy is the following: If Kyle Reese met Sarah Conner in 1984 (which he did), and John Conner was 10 when T2 happened in 1994 (which it did), then Kyle Reese and Sarah had to have met in early 1984, given a 9-month pregnancy. Now, considering that John Conner was 10 when they took out Cyberdyne, that means that had to have happened after his tenth birthday, meaning it was during the last few months of 1994 (October through December). Given that, there were [B]less[/B] than three years between the events of T2 and Sarah Conner's death, since she died in August 1997 anyway (since August 29th was Judgement Day, she died only a day or two after that). That means that John Conner was slightly off when he said she "fought for three years" against her leukemia. Of course, he could have just been rounding. :D [/QUOTE]
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