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<blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 988370" data-attributes="member: 3570">Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussionSure there was an original timeline.&nbsp; It was the one that led up to the machines building the Time Displacement device in the first place.&nbsp; Once they used it, that's when the timelines started changing.So the John Connor that Reese worshipped and would have died for actually wasn't his son, because before the TD machine was built John would have been conceived by a man from Sarah's original time.But when Reese went back and became the father, not only did they overwrite the original timeline, they also would inadvertantly change Reese's past during the war because the John Connor conceived by Reese for the new timeline would be slightly different than the original John that Reese followed, if not for different genetic traits than the subtle nuances the new John would no doubt display knowing that Reese was his father.As long as John &quot;Reese's son&quot; Connor still behaved in a manner admired by Reese, and still gave him Sarah's picture, then fate could (and did, according to T3) work itself out and move beyond the &quot;Reese loop&quot;.&nbsp; It isn't a paradox, just a loop.&nbsp; It would only be a paradox if it was a self-created loop, which it wasn't.Nah, its consistent with the designations given to the prototypes in the USAF base (T1-2, etc.), which would naturally be different than those given by Cyberdine, a private corporation that was erased from the future timeline.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kai Lord, post: 988370, member: 3570"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion[/b] Sure there was an original timeline. It was the one that led up to the machines building the Time Displacement device in the first place. Once they [i]used[/i] it, that's when the timelines started changing. So the John Connor that Reese worshipped and would have died for actually [i]wasn't[/i] his son, because before the TD machine was built John would have been conceived by a man from Sarah's original time. But when Reese went back and became the father, not only did they overwrite the original timeline, they also would inadvertantly change [i]Reese's[/i] past during the war because the John Connor conceived by Reese for the [i]new[/i] timeline would be slightly different than the original John that Reese followed, if not for different genetic traits than the subtle nuances the new John would no doubt display knowing that Reese was his father. As long as John "Reese's son" Connor still behaved in a manner admired by Reese, and still gave him Sarah's picture, then fate could (and did, according to T3) work itself out and move beyond the "Reese loop". It isn't a paradox, just a loop. It would only be a paradox if it was a self-created loop, which it wasn't. Nah, its consistent with the designations given to the prototypes in the USAF base (T1-2, etc.), which would naturally be different than those given by Cyberdine, a private corporation that was erased from the future timeline. [/QUOTE]

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