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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 988406" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that's not true. Nothing says that. The whole point of the temporal paradox is that it could ONLY have been Reese to begin with...which means the TD device was built...which means Reese had gone back before that...its an infinite paradox.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Linear thinking says that there must have been a pre-existing paradox-free timeline to begin with, but the temporal mechanics of it show that that isnt true. Even if you trace it backwards, its always going to be an infinite loop that Kyle Reese had always gone back in time to begin with. Reese was ALWAYS John Conner's father, there is no other timeline where anyone else was.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing disallows what you postulated, but nothing actively says its correct either, and absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...that is, just saying that there is no reason something can't be true doesn't mean that means it is true. Temporal paradoxes move both directions in time...meaning that the "timeline 1" you posted never actually existed except as an abstraction because timeline 2 became infinite in both past and future.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because that's an unnecessary complication - if they're going to keep the rest of the timeline self-correcting, it makes little sense to make another change like that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's different though - the crux of T3 was about how they didn't prevent the war...that issue was addressed. The rather useless re-classification of the Terminator series numbers wasn't addressed, and doesn't add anything to the mythology. It just makes it slightly more complicated.</p><p></p><p>Nothing says that keeping that number the same would have dumbed down the story either. It would, in fact, have enhanced it, since the whole point of T3 was indeed that every little detail does stay the same across the timelines.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 988406, member: 8461"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Terminator 3 - SPOILER filled discussion[/b] No, that's not true. Nothing says that. The whole point of the temporal paradox is that it could ONLY have been Reese to begin with...which means the TD device was built...which means Reese had gone back before that...its an infinite paradox. Linear thinking says that there must have been a pre-existing paradox-free timeline to begin with, but the temporal mechanics of it show that that isnt true. Even if you trace it backwards, its always going to be an infinite loop that Kyle Reese had always gone back in time to begin with. Reese was ALWAYS John Conner's father, there is no other timeline where anyone else was. Nothing disallows what you postulated, but nothing actively says its correct either, and absence of evidence is not evidence of absence...that is, just saying that there is no reason something can't be true doesn't mean that means it is true. Temporal paradoxes move both directions in time...meaning that the "timeline 1" you posted never actually existed except as an abstraction because timeline 2 became infinite in both past and future. Because that's an unnecessary complication - if they're going to keep the rest of the timeline self-correcting, it makes little sense to make another change like that. That's different though - the crux of T3 was about how they didn't prevent the war...that issue was addressed. The rather useless re-classification of the Terminator series numbers wasn't addressed, and doesn't add anything to the mythology. It just makes it slightly more complicated. Nothing says that keeping that number the same would have dumbed down the story either. It would, in fact, have enhanced it, since the whole point of T3 was indeed that every little detail does stay the same across the timelines. [/QUOTE]
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